Sky Menace Needs to Be Downgraded

I've noticed that these updates have been put in place:

Turnblock probabilities
Wall creation prevention

From this, Sky Menace can spam 1 bomber stacks (at reduced 130 price each bomber) near cities to prevent the creation of enemy defense walls. Also, movement is boosted to 17, and though Blitzkrieg has it to 18, it really makes very little difference. Being turnblocked so that walls can still be created is not effective, anymore.

Blitzkrieg has no discounts, and such strategic moves can't be done cheaply. Master of Stealth is too expensive to do the maneuver over and over again, and it's built for stealth. All other strats are too slow or not fulfilling their purposes using this method. I stopped using Sky Menace myself since I believed it to be overpowering, and it was not enough of a challenge.

In conclusion, in some way, Sky Menace must be downgraded, or no strat can beat it except other Sky Menace users.

Skrevet av IGR J17091, 21.05.2012 at 18:21

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In conclusion, in some way, Sky Menace must be downgraded, or no strat can beat it except other Sky Menace users.

Yes, oh God yes. That's pretty much why whenever I notice that someone is an SM user, I just leave the game without even bothering trying to fight them. SM is too OP.

It's Ukraine that is OP, not SM. SM is beatable.

However I agree that it is one of the most used strategies now, simply because there is no turn-blocking. TB'ing was SM's weakness because it took two moves to move a stack(air transport, then bombers).

If anything, the closest to OP is imp.

Skrevet av Desu, 22.05.2012 at 00:58

It's Ukraine that is OP, not SM. SM is beatable.

However I agree that it is one of the most used strategies now, simply because there is no turn-blocking. TB'ing was SM's weakness because it took two moves to move a stack(air transport, then bombers).

If anything, the closest to OP is imp.

I agree, Ukraine is OP, SM isn't. I think increasing Ukraine's cost should be enough.

For the love of Zizou, why the hell do we have ANOTHER one of these??? use one of these threads, please!
http://afterwind.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=3763
http://afterwind.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=3996

Skrevet av Desu, 22.05.2012 at 00:58

It's Ukraine that is OP, not SM. SM is beatable.

This^

Ukraine used to be about 4k, and it was fair, especially 5k games and such... now that it's 2k, I agree that the cost of Ukraine should be raised again to AT LEAST 3750. About SM though... what can we do now that might backfire a SM user's strategies?

Skrevet av IGR J17091, 23.05.2012 at 17:54

Ukraine used to be about 4k, and it was fair, especially 5k games and such... now that it's 2k, I agree that the cost of Ukraine should be raised again to AT LEAST 3750. About SM though... what can we do now that might backfire a SM user's strategies?

Add turn blocking back in the way it used to be.
Nowadays, SM users can just steam roll you by sending 100 bombers, and you most likely won't be able to stop them with this new TB update. In the old update, you could TB the person then have some time to make recruits to attack the enemy stack. Now, that doesn't work really well.

Skrevet av Gking19, 23.05.2012 at 19:29

Skrevet av IGR J17091, 23.05.2012 at 17:54

Ukraine used to be about 4k, and it was fair, especially 5k games and such... now that it's 2k, I agree that the cost of Ukraine should be raised again to AT LEAST 3750. About SM though... what can we do now that might backfire a SM user's strategies?

Add turn blocking back in the way it used to be.
Nowadays, SM users can just steam roll you by sending 100 bombers, and you most likely won't be able to stop them with this new TB update. In the old update, you could TB the person then have some time to make recruits to attack the enemy stack. Now, that doesn't work really well.

I agree... let's home Amok can come up with a better turnblock system before everybody's using SM. And while he's thinking, return the turnblock to its original system.