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Postet av ROYAL, 21.05.2016 - 21:58
Ever since I started Atwar, it has never been so difficult for me to get a duel. The lack of available duels have gotten so bad that I've completely lost all faith in dueling.

Trying to find a duel with anybody is a pain that is probably isn't worth the fun of playing the duel. I would sit in a room for hours as random people wander in and out, none of them duel-able for several reasons.

1. Their elo is too low and I literally gain less than 1 elo or even 0 elo when I win.
2. They are below rank 5 and belong in the beginner lobby.

It has become plainly obvious why it is increasingly hard for me to find duels.

A. People are too stingy about their elo. A number that is next to worthless appearing next to their name when you click on it. Quite honestly, people are so afraid to lose their elo that they refuse to take any duel where they could possibly lose. People's elo mean almost nothing to me, you can be a great player with subpar elo for all I care.
Is this really the mentality you want to have as a competitive player? What kind of competitive player refuses to challenge themselves and only play it safe. What do you learn playing the same noobs over and over? Almost nothing and you reinforce bad habits that will hurt your chances when you play an actual opponent.
----------------- Yes I understand that people like clovis wants to preserve their elo, but clovis wont even 1v1 me anymore. I also get that people like Laochra are incredibly busy and can't always be available for duels.

B. People are afraid to challenge themselves.
I've noticed that everybody, including myself at one point, decides to play it safe and never play a game that is too challenging. Stop playing it safe and take a risk for once.


Basically what I observed from all of this is that:
Dueling and competitive play have become more about winning safe games and getting better numbers than improving yourselves as a player.

Can we all stop playing it safe and letting dueling stagnate?

This rant is probably going to change nothing since it is human nature to focus more on the negative aspects of things. A loss duel hurts a lot more than a dozen winning ones.

PS. Thanks to all the people who will duel anybody without regards for their elo and focus on improving themselves rather than pad a worthless number.
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22.05.2016 - 12:20
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Ugh, do they still bother defending EU+? Its a lost cause mates.
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22.05.2016 - 12:39
"This rant is probably going to change nothing"

Don't talk about it, be about it! Make changes yourself, don't come to the forums and publicly do this alone. PM some of these people, support your cause. However nothing can ever be done to solve this issue, There will always be cowards and such. Goodluck
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22.05.2016 - 12:47
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Skrevet av Guest, 22.05.2016 at 03:53

I honestly accept anybody's duels that aren't on totally unbalanced maps. But I openly say why I dislike EU and EU+ 10k duels: they became too much all about memorization. Literally. Whenever I play some guy, he mostly does the same, memorized expansion all over and over. So the one who memorizes the most of the perfect way to play wins the game. How awesome.

i have been telling that for ages.Besides that you also are a 5k fag lets not forget that.5k is also same moves.Basically this whole game is same moves again and again.Also 10k europe is luck.If you guess right what your enemy will do.Same for whole game.


You post a lot of nonsense and vitriol on these forums, i usually ignore it but i am going to address this 1 post as i feel someone needs to say it. It is this attitude:

Skrevet av Nations, 22.05.2016 at 08:33

.Basically this whole game is same moves again and again.Also 10k europe is luck.If you guess right what your enemy will do.Same for whole game.


That sums up the limitations in your gameplay. Let me tell you what this game is really about. Your skills, micro, strategy, experience, rank, upgrades, mechanics knowlege all contribute to your % chance of beating another player. Anyone can technically beat anyone under the right conditions(but ofc in some cases the % chance is so low it might as well be never).

I've played you many times but i didnt pay any particular attention to your gameplay until recently when you decided to become so vocal on the forums. You are one of those high ranks who i would confidently expect to stomp over in any situation. That recent cw where i had killed you safely without taking any risks by t5 was a good example. There were problems in your gameplay that extended beyond strategy map and setting ie your move priorities, risk assessment and micro. But i doubt you care, you probably just like trashtalking.

Laochra,as someone who only plays the same map again and again,always same funds,I think you the last one who can judge me.You better than me only in one specific type of gameplay.Europe 10k.Thats all you know.I dont know how this is considered skill.You call my gameplay problematic,yet you the one who when gets killed by a strategy,instead of saying "i will try and improve and kill him" you go on forums and start complaining about that strat is "op" and must be nerfed.

Your ego is way too damn high.Also i dont trashtalk,other players do though.All I do is telling the truth wihout sucking any mods or admins and that as it seems bothers you.I get it.As for that CW i played safe to avoid risk.Remember that spain failed in Paris so i was 1vs2.Of course i would play safe.And i wanst dead by turn 5 and certainly you didnt kill me.UK came and caped me.I mean beside spamming inf what else you can do? I know everything about AT including tbs etc.Also atleast I when i lose to a strategy I dont go cry in forums.I try to improve and learn better.Lastly calling me low skill means that all those players i have beat are noobs? You make no sense.And yes europe 10k is all about memorazing and guessing corectly.You just spam inf and move it around.I have killed many "competitive players" as you call them europe 10k fags.What does that mean?

I dont know you very well,aI dont know if you a good guy,all i know is that truth bothers you.Its ok.It happens with many people.
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22.05.2016 - 13:00
Royal, come on, you say other people don't duel you cause they have a big elo difference yet you probably do the same... change yourself first, then complain about others.

Btw, have you considered dueling at a different hours? Late at night there are less players.

You are one of those people stagnating duels by yourself actually. What settings do you usually duel on? 95% 10k Eu+? What strategy do you use? 75% PD? If that's not stagnation, then idk what stagnation might mean to you.

As a matter of fact, I'm trying to start duels in other maps such as Destoria and Dreamworld, which both seem nice maps to play in and have standard units but barely anyone joins. People seem to prefer Ancient, but not too many people anyway.

Well, it doesn't matter, as you say it's just elo. Don't duel if you don't think it's worth the chance and problem solved
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22.05.2016 - 13:32
Skrevet av Guest, 22.05.2016 at 03:53

I honestly accept anybody's duels that aren't on totally unbalanced maps. But I openly say why I dislike EU and EU+ 10k duels: they became too much all about memorization. Literally. Whenever I play some guy, he mostly does the same, memorized expansion all over and over. So the one who memorizes the most of the perfect way to play wins the game. How awesome.

dude this is exactly what you do on middle east map...ive played you a few times and you did the same exact thing with the same exact country...
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22.05.2016 - 13:35
Skrevet av Nations, 22.05.2016 at 12:47

Laochra,as someone who only plays the same map again and again,always same funds,I think you the last one who can judge me.You better than me only in one specific type of gameplay.Europe 10k. I mean beside spamming inf what else you can do?


idk lets find out! Lets have a few duels on some settings of your choice dear viva. I'm just a eu 10k infspammer, will be easy for you. Shall we start with a 50k 1v1? Time for a reality check.
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22.05.2016 - 13:38
Skrevet av Permamuted, 22.05.2016 at 13:35

Skrevet av Nations, 22.05.2016 at 12:47

Laochra,as someone who only plays the same map again and again,always same funds,I think you the last one who can judge me.You better than me only in one specific type of gameplay.Europe 10k. I mean beside spamming inf what else you can do?


idk lets find out! Lets have a few duels on some settings of your choice dear viva. I'm just a eu 10k infspammer, will be easy for you. Shall we start with a 50k 1v1? Time for a reality check.

SM uk op
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22.05.2016 - 13:41
Skrevet av Permamuted, 22.05.2016 at 13:35

Skrevet av Nations, 22.05.2016 at 12:47

Laochra,as someone who only plays the same map again and again,always same funds,I think you the last one who can judge me.You better than me only in one specific type of gameplay.Europe 10k. I mean beside spamming inf what else you can do?


idk lets find out! Lets have a few duels on some settings of your choice dear viva. I'm just a eu 10k infspammer, will be easy for you. Shall we start with a 50k 1v1? Time for a reality check.

Dont get so highhorse man. He is just provoking you. He lost badly vs Flume when he just called him out. Don't give people like this attention like that lol.
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Skrevet av Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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22.05.2016 - 13:44
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Skrevet av 1GodofWar1, 22.05.2016 at 13:32

Skrevet av Guest, 22.05.2016 at 03:53

I honestly accept anybody's duels that aren't on totally unbalanced maps. But I openly say why I dislike EU and EU+ 10k duels: they became too much all about memorization. Literally. Whenever I play some guy, he mostly does the same, memorized expansion all over and over. So the one who memorizes the most of the perfect way to play wins the game. How awesome.

dude this is exactly what you do on middle east map...ive played you a few times and you did the same exact thing with the same exact country...


What country and when? If I remember correctly I played kuwait and syria vs you.
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22.05.2016 - 13:45
Skrevet av Xenosapien, 22.05.2016 at 13:38

Skrevet av Permamuted, 22.05.2016 at 13:35

Skrevet av Nations, 22.05.2016 at 12:47

Laochra,as someone who only plays the same map again and again,always same funds,I think you the last one who can judge me.You better than me only in one specific type of gameplay.Europe 10k. I mean beside spamming inf what else you can do?


idk lets find out! Lets have a few duels on some settings of your choice dear viva. I'm just a eu 10k infspammer, will be easy for you. Shall we start with a 50k 1v1? Time for a reality check.

SM uk op


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22.05.2016 - 14:15
Skrevet av Waffel, 22.05.2016 at 13:41

Skrevet av Permamuted, 22.05.2016 at 13:35

Skrevet av Nations, 22.05.2016 at 12:47

Laochra,as someone who only plays the same map again and again,always same funds,I think you the last one who can judge me.You better than me only in one specific type of gameplay.Europe 10k. I mean beside spamming inf what else you can do?


idk lets find out! Lets have a few duels on some settings of your choice dear viva. I'm just a eu 10k infspammer, will be easy for you. Shall we start with a 50k 1v1? Time for a reality check.

Dont get so highhorse man. He is just provoking you. He lost badly vs Flume when he just called him out. Don't give people like this attention like that lol.


thank you oh wise waffel, please share more of thine holy wisdom.
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22.05.2016 - 18:06
Skrevet av Waffel, 22.05.2016 at 13:41

Skrevet av Permamuted, 22.05.2016 at 13:35

Skrevet av Nations, 22.05.2016 at 12:47

Laochra,as someone who only plays the same map again and again,always same funds,I think you the last one who can judge me.You better than me only in one specific type of gameplay.Europe 10k. I mean beside spamming inf what else you can do?


idk lets find out! Lets have a few duels on some settings of your choice dear viva. I'm just a eu 10k infspammer, will be easy for you. Shall we start with a 50k 1v1? Time for a reality check.

Dont get so highhorse man. He is just provoking you. He lost badly vs Flume when he just called him out. Don't give people like this attention like that lol.

How did i "lost badly" ? Lol waffel you AW best troll.Only reason i lost was that wall in the poland city.He only had berlin which i failed to recap for like 7militia .Anyway i asked him for rematch and he was too scared.Anyway laochra tell me where you want to duel? I will duel you in 3k 5k 10k and 25k game options.May the best win.
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22.05.2016 - 18:11
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Skrevet av Permamuted, 22.05.2016 at 05:36

Skrevet av ROYAL, 21.05.2016 at 21:58



the only reason i caught you for a duel the other night was because i couldnt sleep, it was 4am, i never see you duel when im on, you even made this post at 4am for me, very offpeak hours. Get a better timezone/workschedule!

Laochra that's not good for your heart,what would i do if you get ill like Itachi from Winterfell
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23.05.2016 - 14:39
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How did i "lost badly" ? Lol waffel you AW best troll.Only reason i lost was that wall in the poland city.He only had berlin which i failed to recap for like 7militia .Anyway i asked him for rematch and he was too scared.Anyway laochra tell me where you want to duel? I will duel you in 3k 5k 10k and 25k game options.May the best win.

Yep i was sooooo scared, unfortunately you're too spooky for me
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23.05.2016 - 18:30
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Skrevet av Flume, 23.05.2016 at 14:39


How did i "lost badly" ? Lol waffel you AW best troll.Only reason i lost was that wall in the poland city.He only had berlin which i failed to recap for like 7militia .Anyway i asked him for rematch and he was too scared.Anyway laochra tell me where you want to duel? I will duel you in 3k 5k 10k and 25k game options.May the best win.

Yep i was sooooo scared, unfortunately you're too spooky for me

rematch
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Skrevet av Palmitas, 23.07.2020 at 15:30

Skrevet av Froyer, 23.07.2020 at 10:43

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