Israeli logic

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Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 23.07.2014 at 12:18

I supported Israel in their conflict with arabs until now, because they always defended their land. But now, although they are not invading countries, they are killing unarmed civilians, so no support.

Funny thing is that West support Ukraine government in killing civilians, and cry when Israel government is killing their civilians.

West: go Ukraine! kill those damn russian civilians!
Russia: stop it.
West: fuck you Russia!
Ukraine: yeah fuck you!

Israel killing civilians
West: omg Israel stop it D:
Ukraine: dont kill innocent civilians
Russia: ?!?!?!

A picture is worth a thousand words

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 23.07.2014 at 12:18

I supported Israel in their conflict with arabs until now, because they always defended their land. But now, although they are not invading countries, they are killing unarmed civilians, so no support.

since when is palestine israels country?
it first was egyptian, then it had many small states like greece, then it became israel, then persia conquered it, then Macedonia took it over, then it fell into greek egyptain hands, then romans fucked the ptolemaic, then arabia took it from the byzantine empire, then the Mamluks took over, then the ottomans ruled it, then the ottomans died and uk got their hands on palestine and at the then finally israel was created.

you could say that palestine was longer greek and roman (but still greek) and make a country where you put greeks and kill everyone living there else, just like russia did with east prussia...but lets not turn this into a WW2 topic.

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 04:49

Skrevet av Tirpitz406, 23.07.2014 at 19:32

since when is palestine israels country?
it first was egyptian, then it had many small states like greece, then it became israel, then persia conquered it, then Macedonia took it over, then it fell into greek egyptain hands, then romans fucked the ptolemaic, then arabia took it from the byzantine empire, then the Mamluks took over, then the ottomans ruled it, then the ottomans died and uk got their hands on palestine and at the then finally israel was created.

you could say that palestine was longer greek and roman (but still greek) and make a country where you put greeks and kill everyone living there else, just like russia did with east prussia...but lets not turn this into a WW2 topic.

I understand that, but Israelis did had a state before 2000 years, they were the same people like today. Problem is when islam rised they took Israel(with everything else from middle east and north africa) and killed/converted/expelled jews from jewish lands.

I may recall wrong, but didn't the Muslims tolerate the Jews?

Skrevet av Guest, 24.07.2014 at 05:13

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 04:49

Skrevet av Tirpitz406, 23.07.2014 at 19:32

since when is palestine israels country?
it first was egyptian, then it had many small states like greece, then it became israel, then persia conquered it, then Macedonia took it over, then it fell into greek egyptain hands, then romans fucked the ptolemaic, then arabia took it from the byzantine empire, then the Mamluks took over, then the ottomans ruled it, then the ottomans died and uk got their hands on palestine and at the then finally israel was created.

you could say that palestine was longer greek and roman (but still greek) and make a country where you put greeks and kill everyone living there else, just like russia did with east prussia...but lets not turn this into a WW2 topic.

I understand that, but Israelis did had a state before 2000 years, they were the same people like today. Problem is when islam rised they took Israel(with everything else from middle east and north africa) and killed/converted/expelled jews from jewish lands.

I may recall wrong, but didn't the Muslims tolerate the Jews?

learn history , Tito before you come shiting about arabs , When Islam took Palestine , Khalif Omer ben katab sign a contract allowing christans and jewish to pray as they want in the holy city , and live equal with muslims , and to pay Jizzya for not joining the muslim army and for their protection , Then saying Israel get the right to protect it land , while palestinian dont -_- , Israel Raped West bank , then went to gaza , at least they hold on , LIke this so fucking propaganda american news , saying that israel get the right to protect it citzens from rockets that doesnt even touch them , and gaza cant defend itself when F-16 planes rape them , and them losing 5000 causilties , 1000 died half of those are children and womens -_- , them cant even come near the sea cuz Israel navy bombing the shores , they arent allowed to LIVE!! in ISRAEL logic , -_-! stop your shit and dont beleive what you fucking hear on your news -_-

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 04:49

Skrevet av Tirpitz406, 23.07.2014 at 19:32

since when is palestine israels country?
it first was egyptian, then it had many small states like greece, then it became israel, then persia conquered it, then Macedonia took it over, then it fell into greek egyptain hands, then romans fucked the ptolemaic, then arabia took it from the byzantine empire, then the Mamluks took over, then the ottomans ruled it, then the ottomans died and uk got their hands on palestine and at the then finally israel was created.

you could say that palestine was longer greek and roman (but still greek) and make a country where you put greeks and kill everyone living there else, just like russia did with east prussia...but lets not turn this into a WW2 topic.

I understand that, but Israelis did had a state before 2000 years, they were the same people like today. Problem is when islam rised they took Israel(with everything else from middle east and north africa) and killed/converted/expelled jews from jewish lands. Even after arabs turks arrived from ottoman empire and continue with islam until 1918. Plus jewish people suffered enough under germany and world war two so they deserve their own state where they can organize and defend themselves so they dont end up like sheeps on slaughter like 70 years ago. Arabs didnt want to leave Israel, no one forced them to leave in 1948, but jews returned and created a state where arabs protested and started series of wars, jews didnt kick or convert arabs in israel, dont forget that. Today after 60 years, there are only small parts where arabs live like gaza or west bank, they moved so they dont live with the jews(they hate them more than americans hate russians), they couldnt stand that they can live like neighbors door to door, or their kids play together and go to school, so they left. Now they claim gaza and west bank is palestine and not israel because it has almost 100% arabs, thats stupid, because no matter what percentage you got, thats still Israel.

15,000,000 germans fled Prussia in period from 1944 to 1945 because they saw Germany is losing and Soviets advancing, Russians didnt kill or kicked them. I still wonder why they did it, i mean romanians, bulgarians or poles didnt fled their countries when russians arrived, even though bulgaria and romania were nazi allies, they didnt fear. But germans from prussia left prussia and go to west germany, not even east lol, they were really scared of russians.... or they just hated russia so they didnt wanted to be close to them, who knows.

yup nth forced them from palestine in 48 expect...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_and_massacres_during_the_1948_Palestine_war
and they moved cuz they hate israel right -_- not cuz they were afraid for their life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

and Israel loves Palestine right, they love them so much that the arab who lives in israel arent allowed to expand their house , not allowed to repair they houses , taxes are doubled for them , and if they dare reparing their house or expanding it israel will blow it up , and those are facts ,
then saying that they were first in here is so gay , even if it is true , and they should take it cuz they were here before , then American natives should take all of america NOW and USA go back to europe , cuz they were first their

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 04:49

Muuuuuuuuuuuuch bla!

i'll just advise you to read Yazans comment as he obviously knows his shit better than i do, and you different than, i think unleashed, trust Wikipedia.

and about the 2000 years ago, there were people there already 3000 years ago, in their own free city states, why not do that?
or why not revive this empire?

lets put people who name themselves romans in your home country and kill your family, and your friends, and rest of all serbia...
i think you should put yourself into Yazans position a bit more...maybe its easier to understand it this way.

and why would you say that the Jews (nothing's bad about them, just stop letting your governement kill ppl pls) "deserve" palestine?
because they had an empire there for 400 years there? greeks were there for 800 years, muslims were there 1100 years.
usally the people who owns a country should keep it... thats a lot more human...

about prussia, zhe germans shit zheir pants, as russian soldiers raped women, killed men and put them into gulags, thats why many people fleed. and over 12 million germans were banished from 1945 to 1950 when russians and poles gave the germans no rights at all
http://www.historiasiglo20.org/MEC-BC/images/3Byzantium476lightblue%5B1%5D.png

@Tito How can a human know so much wrong facts?

@Tito




You keep telling us bullshit. You might think USSR was a piece from heaven but USSR was evil and killed millions of people in 70 years. I'm glad it dissolved because USSR fucked this world no other countries.

Skrevet av Tirpitz406, 24.07.2014 at 09:07

about prussia, the germans shit their pants, as russian soldiers raped women, killed men and put them into gulags. and over 12 million germans were banished from 1945 to 1950 when russians and poles gave the germans no rights at all

Tito: "well you dont understand how was it for russian soldiers, they were tired and horny ...and its ok that they raped girls of age 8" <----he said this once

Sick bastard.

Skrevet av Tirpitz406, 24.07.2014 at 09:07

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 04:49

Muuuuuuuuuuuuch bla!

i'll just advise you to read Yazans comment as he obviously knows his shit better than i do, and you different than i think unleashed trust Wikipedia.

and about the 2000 years ago, there were people there already 3000 years ago, in their own free city states, why not do that?
or why not revive this empire?

lets put people who name themselves romans in your home country and kill your family, and your friends, and rest of all serbia...
i think you should put yourself into Yazans position a bit more...maybe its easier to understand it this way.

and why would you say that the Jews (nothing's bad about them, just stop letting your governement kill ppl pls) "deserve" palestine?
because they had an empire there for 400 years there? greeks were there for 800 years, muslims were there 1100 years.
usally the people who owns a country should keep it... thats a lot more human...
http://www.historiasiglo20.org/MEC-BC/images/3Byzantium476lightblue%5B1%5D.png

it is so true , but people keep shiting about it , and with USA leading it , saying they should own it since they were here before , but them ignoring the fact that they should leave america and go to europe -_- !! Why the hell it Work for Israel but doesnt work for USA , Australia , South America and THE WHOLE WORLD ACTUALLY ,

Skrevet av Goblin, 24.07.2014 at 09:35

Skrevet av Tirpitz406, 24.07.2014 at 09:07

about prussia, the germans shit their pants, as russian soldiers raped women, killed men and put them into gulags. and over 12 million germans were banished from 1945 to 1950 when russians and poles gave the germans no rights at all

Tito: "well you dont understand how was it for russian soldiers, they were tired and horny ...and its ok that they raped girls of age 8" <----he said this once

Sick bastard.

Or evidence that he is troll.

Skrevet av Guest, 24.07.2014 at 10:50

Skrevet av Goblin, 24.07.2014 at 09:35

Skrevet av Tirpitz406, 24.07.2014 at 09:07

about prussia, the germans shit their pants, as russian soldiers raped women, killed men and put them into gulags. and over 12 million germans were banished from 1945 to 1950 when russians and poles gave the germans no rights at all

Tito: "well you dont understand how was it for russian soldiers, they were tired and horny ...and its ok that they raped girls of age 8" <----he said this once

Sick bastard.

Or evidence that he is troll.

not a troll, just a little wine red and a bit too much loyalty

Skrevet av Roncho, 24.07.2014 at 09:21

@Tito How can a human know so much wrong facts?

he knows the facts, he's just accidently forgetting them when writing comments

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 11:21

Skrevet av Guest, 24.07.2014 at 05:13

I may recall wrong, but didn't the Muslims tolerate the Jews?

If they tolerate them, why jews left Israel and spread around whole europe? They were literally everywhere in EU until Nazi Germany killed the most of them.

Dont forget spanish inquisition, german riots in medieval age(blaming and killing jews on the streets), massacres in england, taking basic rights in france and italy, and pogroms from damn cossacks in Russia.

Why? because they were scattrered by teh Europeans.

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 11:37

Skrevet av Tirpitz406, 24.07.2014 at 09:07

Bleaaaargh!

They were evicted, deported, kicked, banned. They have right to return to their land, no matter how much time passed. American natives already ask for land to return, of course americans laugh at them but soon they will have to return as ''america is free and justice for all'', right?

Why would germans return to live in prussia or poland? no way pedro. They dragged families from west germany to inhabit cleansed towns and regions of poland and russia in ww2, so this time you better stay in germany. We wont risk and let you start a war or insurgency again. Prussia belongs Poland now, and Danzing is polish, gift by USSR/Russia, and of course Poland hate Russia today, logically because bad nation will always hate good one.

nice gift when you take even more in return ._.

and yes, germans would want to return, rly, thats nice land. btw we never leaved Prussia, thats some bs you got there dude.
poland just changed sides, we call that fahnenflucht in germany.
im not saying that you should remove poland and russia, that would suck a lot, but just dont do it again, ok? and finally get that it sucked ASS!!

Tito: "of course Poland hate Russia today, logically because bad nation will always hate good one"

Oh look another nation added up to the list of nations this old man insulted...

Nations according to Tito's posts:
- Turks: pedophiles, savages
- Albanians: rapists, butchers, scumm of the earth
- Americans: everything that is wrong with the world
- Germans: sick nazis
- Croats: more sick nazis
- Japanese: sick demented nazis
- Macedonians: they are serbs under falls pretense of thinkin they have a country, history, culture or nation ...they are scumm actually
- Ukrainians: even more sick nazis!!!
- Polish: bad nation, bad bad nation

- Russians: holy saints, never done anything wrong in their whole history (if they did their soldiers were tired and horny so its ok to rape and murder)
- Serbs: heaven nation, never done anything wrong in their entire history (if they did rape and butcher people, its their own fault, specialy croats, croats deserve it)


Somebody stop this mad man...

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 11:42

Skrevet av Roncho, 24.07.2014 at 09:34

@Tito




You keep telling us bullshit. You might think USSR was a piece from heaven but USSR was evil and killed millions of people in 70 years. I'm glad it dissolved because USSR fucked this world no other countries.

Soviet Union was good country, good countries cant be evil. USSR didnt kill millions, that would be USA in prohibition era.

Very interesting how you as a turk is glad USSR dissolved, because USSR funded and helped Turkish Republic in war against Greece 1921. Without Soviet technology, medicine, ammo, instructors, planes you would lose to small greece. Today, half anatolia would be greek with capital in Constantinople. East Anatolia would be Kurdistan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#Soviet_Union
And please explain to me how prohibition killed millions?
inb4 American propaganda

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 12:33

USSR got polish eastern part(which was russian from 1700 to 1918), there are only plains and villages, while Poland got Silesia where are cities and mines. Plus large coast and sea with big port of Gdansk. Yes, its a gift.

no its not, your kind russians bnished ~9 million poles from east poland. and after all the east was much bigger than prussia. the coast didnt help either, poland already had a port. what a gift, i'll steal you Rubels give you a few cents, then call that a gift, ok?

i'm really impressed how you can ignore facts everytime we talk, how do you do that? teach me!

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 12:33

You can return if you wish, but as individua, not state controled, and comprise polish minority, speak polish, send kids to polish school and respect polish laws.

ok, we'll respect your rights and gift you the saarland for Prussia. you can have it, there's your present. We will just be like you russians, nice gift, isnt it?

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 12:33

Well, atleast for some more time, because we all know that Germany is heavily wasting its citizens tax on bribing and corrupting EU states, poland as well. So polish ministers and politicians will change laws, allow german, maybe even pay moving and settling cost, grant them autonomy and before you blink - western poland will be german and poles will be minority. History will repeat. And because they hate Russia,
they wont let them help, so they will die in millions again, then forgive to germans because they hate russians and over and over again.

mh-hm
germans arent allowed to buy land in poland until 2015, very bribed.
gawd, we arent russians, the corrupts we had are already gone:

I forgot to mention the funniest thing... no one knows what nationality Tito is

- in one post he said he is embarassed by what he is ...thats sad
- he says he is Jugoslav ...is funny how he mocks "artificial" american nation, but takes pride in some artificial slavic federation
- avatar tells me he claimed to be part russian part greek
- to me he responded he "might be" part croat part serb


i think he is part crazy, part delusional.

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 12:55

Skrevet av Nero, 24.07.2014 at 12:38

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#Soviet_Union
And please explain to me how prohibition killed millions?
inb4 American propaganda

It says there, perfectly, so i dont understand whats your point:

390,000 kulaks died
800,000 people executed
3,000,000 died from holodomor

Everything by the law. Holodomor happened, it couldnt be prevented in that time because agriculture and industry from 1930 is different from 2014.

I said prohibition era. Not prohibition. Read carefully... read every word... if you dont understand, read again, think about it until you realize, before posting.

In that era economy was very weak, almost ruined, no jobs and no work, 3,000,000 americans died from hunger, riots, conflicts, shooting, executed etc. Mostly died from hunger, of course most poor americans from lowest class, i dont know if black or white, but i would bet on black because they didnt had rights. But hey! no rights - no count as human! so its all good!

If youre referring to the Great Depression, take into account the Dust Bowl. What can the government do to stop a national disaster? And with the Great Depression, almost every country was affected. I dont know why you continue to accuse America of such monstrosities against human lives.

Eh ...its useless to respond to my posts comrade, muted you because i dont want to read alt history stories and pathetic excuses for crimes of your beloved nations anymore.

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 11:26

Skrevet av YazanTheSexy, 24.07.2014 at 08:03

learn history , Tito before you come shiting about arabs , When Islam took Palestine , Khalif Omer ben katab sign a contract allowing christans and jewish to pray as they want in the holy city , and live equal with muslims , and to pay Jizzya for not joining the muslim army and for their protection , Then saying Israel get the right to protect it land , while palestinian dont -_- , Israel Raped West bank , then went to gaza , at least they hold on , LIke this so fucking propaganda american news , saying that israel get the right to protect it citzens from rockets that doesnt even touch them , and gaza cant defend itself when F-16 planes rape them , and them losing 5000 causilties , 1000 died half of those are children and womens -_- , them cant even come near the sea cuz Israel navy bombing the shores , they arent allowed to LIVE!! in ISRAEL logic , -_-! stop your shit and dont beleive what you fucking hear on your news -_-

I dont have to learn history, i know enough.

I didnt shit about arabs, it is fact that arabs are attacking Israel since 1948. Israel never attack any arab country(taking sinai doesnt count because arabs gangbanged israel so they had to block one front, they gave it back afterwards, israel is small and doesnt have space for manouver).

I understand why is Israel doing whats is doing. Because they tried to negotiate and use diplomacy with arab countries for 60 years, and failed because arabs ignore, so they are just attacking insurgents and rebels and doesnt care for casulties because arabs ignore them.

I said above i dont support them, so chill donkey.

Your ARABS had To fight for their damn Freedom , stop shiting about it , your country did EXACTLY the same thing they "Attacked ottomans" their invaders , now your people are freedom fight and our people are terrorist for doing EXACTLY the same thing ??!
LOL ISRAEL caring about negotiation ? Dude we have been doing that since 67 with them!! and they ARE refusing to give us our LAND!! , even UN , says that THE WHOLE west bank and gaza are Palestinian lands and East Jerusalem but israel refused , they took west bank , build tons of checkpoints , took 3/4 of Our west bank as on what they agreed to give us the whole land in oslo agreement -_- , TRY living a life where you have to cross 3-5 check points to move from city to city , try living with the fear that i live from Israelians Settlement attack on our houses here on west bank , i bet you never heared about that cuz of your propaganda news!!? again learn history bro , you are acting like a kid who doesnt know a shit , and only wana talk to show himself

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 11:32

Skrevet av YazanTheSexy, 24.07.2014 at 08:11

yup nth forced them from palestine in 48 expect...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_and_massacres_during_the_1948_Palestine_war
and they moved cuz they hate israel right -_- not cuz they were afraid for their life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

and Israel loves Palestine right, they love them so much that the arab who lives in israel arent allowed to expand their house , not allowed to repair they houses , taxes are doubled for them , and if they dare reparing their house or expanding it israel will blow it up , and those are facts ,
then saying that they were first in here is so gay , even if it is true , and they should take it cuz they were here before , then American natives should take all of america NOW and USA go back to europe , cuz they were first their

What about jewish settlements in arab parts of Israel? Why do arabs protest and riot? Ever heard of individual liberty? Free movement? jew as arab can buy a house anyplace he wants, no one can stop him, and what arabs do? they move, so they dont live next to discusting jewish family... eeyak.

My country had companies which operated in middle east from 1950 to 1990, building bridges, tunnels, roads, buildings, poligons, airfields. And i remember when i saw big cables loaded onto ship ready for Irak i noticed they doesnt have the name of the company on it. When i asked iraki technologist whats going on, he answered muslims hate jews, and that company name is jewish so they want to buy cables, but they dont want to carry that name... Company name was Moshe Piyade, yugoslav jewish.

Why so much hate?

i dont know mmm maybe THEY TOOK our land??

I just watch this today on BBC , and i really have no fucking comment on how your USA propaganda news work -_- they EVEN MADE THE GAZA PHOTO an ISrealians photos -_- 1000 kill in israel!!? you fucking kidding me AND i took those photos with MY OWN PHONE!!!

Its only terrorism if Palestine does it.

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 11:21

Skrevet av Guest, 24.07.2014 at 05:13

I may recall wrong, but didn't the Muslims tolerate the Jews?

If they tolerate them, why jews left Israel and spread around whole europe? They were literally everywhere in EU until Nazi Germany killed the most of them.

how can you be so ignorant and uninformed.Muslims did tolerate the jews.While Islam in my opinion, is an abomination of a religion and the quran a criminal cookbook, the dudes in reality respected Jew faith more than Christianity and Judaism ever respected any other.Nobody forced the Jews to spread EVERYWHERE and create colonies in the whole of Europe,Usa and Russia, incite tenths/hundreds of revolutions and coups, infiltrate other countries governments, take over banks, media and lawyer positions everywhere, promoting their interests against the said countrie's citizens and mess the whole world up.For every big "change" in Europe there are Jews behind it and thats not because the big bad muslim kicked them from Israel, but because that was their plan.Their plan - THEIR CHOICE.It was their choice to mess with a big bad tiger also (Germany-Hitler) and slap it in its cage.So when the tiger broke the cage and ate them, they shouldnt cry about that either.Their choice.Put this to your thick skull, you and all uneducated people that i see saying that crap in real life, in the internet and in TV.
I have already provided you detailed information with names and places about what i said above, with sources, in a previous post some time ago, so dont go calling me anti-semite and nazi again im just here to tell the truth.

p.s.if your argument is that Jews lived for some time there, so they deserve that place, then i can tell you, Greeks lived there longer.I think we should kick big nose Israelites with glasses out and moove our hot suntaned 8-pack Greek bodies there.Do you agree with me?

Skrevet av Khal.eesi, 24.07.2014 at 20:59

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 24.07.2014 at 11:21

Skrevet av Guest, 24.07.2014 at 05:13

I may recall wrong, but didn't the Muslims tolerate the Jews?

If they tolerate them, why jews left Israel and spread around whole europe? They were literally everywhere in EU until Nazi Germany killed the most of them.

how can you be so ignorant and uninformed.Muslims did tolerate the jews.While Islam in my opinion, is an abomination of a religion and the quran a criminal cookbook, the dudes in reality respected Jew faith more than Christianity and Judaism ever respected any other.Nobody forced the Jews to spread EVERYWHERE and create colonies in the whole of Europe,Usa and Russia, incite tenths/hundreds of revolutions and coups, infiltrate other countries governments, take over banks, media and lawyer positions everywhere, promoting their interests against the said countrie's citizens and mess the whole world up.For every big "change" in Europe there are Jews behind it and thats not because the big bad muslim kicked them from Israel, but because that was their plan.Their plan - THEIR CHOICE.It was their choice to mess with a big bad tiger also (Germany-Hitler) and slap it in its cage.So when the tiger broke the cage and ate them, they shouldnt cry about that either.Their choice.Put this to your thick skull, you and all uneducated people that i see saying that crap in real life, in the internet and in TV.
I have already provided you detailed information with names and places about what i said above, with sources, in a previous post some time ago, so dont go calling me anti-semite and nazi again im just here to tell the truth.

p.s.if your argument is that Jews lived for some time there, so they deserve that place, then i can tell you, Greeks lived there longer.I think we should kick big nose Israelites with glasses out and moove our hot suntaned 8-pack Greek bodies there.Do you agree with me?

Khal has said it so its final