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18.04.2015 - 19:27
An option to disable general in the game settings, this will allow duels and clan wars to be more fair and accessible to non-premium members and might also go some way to stop the premium-fag bitching, with some players saying the general is pay-to-win.
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18.04.2015 - 19:53
Or just allow us to choose which upgrades/strategies do we want to disable.... Already suggested.
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18.04.2015 - 20:50
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Skrevet av Chess, 18.04.2015 at 19:51

Or just use the no upgrades option.

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18.04.2015 - 23:59
Support, i hate generalfags.
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19.04.2015 - 00:18
Skrevet av Chess, 18.04.2015 at 19:51

Or just use the no upgrades option.



That doesn't work, because then it disables the other upgrades that all the players concerned have worked towards, it is only the general that is giving players an op advantage and which is exclusive to premium players.
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19.04.2015 - 00:58
Skrevet av clovis1122, 18.04.2015 at 19:53

Or just allow us to choose which upgrades/strategies do we want to disable.... Already suggested.

Maybe, I do however think that idea would present a challenge in terms of the complexity in the game settings.
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19.04.2015 - 04:26
You can just disable upgrades, general upgrades won´t work.
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19.04.2015 - 07:29
Skrevet av hormigaatomica, 19.04.2015 at 04:26

You can just disable upgrades, general upgrades won´t work.

That doesn't work, because then it disables the other upgrades that all the players concerned have worked towards, it is only the general that is giving players an op advantage and which is exclusive to premium players. Also read the other posts, there is little point saying exactly the same thing as somebody else said, without providing further reasoning against.
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19.04.2015 - 07:34
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Then don't play map with general enable, play with a map without general
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19.04.2015 - 07:37
Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 07:34

Then don't play map with general enable, play with a map without general

This leaves out the main competitive map which is played 99.9% of the time in duel and clan war. euro+ extra cities. So that also does not work.
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19.04.2015 - 07:44
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Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 07:37

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 07:34

Then don't play map with general enable, play with a map without general

Which leaves out the main competitive map which is played 99.9% of the time in duel and clan war. euro+ extra cities. So that also does not work.

At-war is not base on duel and clan war, it's also base on scenario and custom map, like 13th century: scourge of God map, where there's no general involve
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19.04.2015 - 07:49
Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 07:44

Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 07:37

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 07:34

Then don't play map with general enable, play with a map without general

Which leaves out the main competitive map which is played 99.9% of the time in duel and clan war. euro+ extra cities. So that also does not work.

At-war is not base on duel and clan war, it's also base on scenario and custom map, like 13th century: scourge of God map, where there's no general involve

I am aware, however the point of the post is to encourage more players to play competitive gameplay that don't want to play against a general with an obvious disadvantage or lose earned upgrades.
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19.04.2015 - 07:53
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Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 07:49

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 07:44

Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 07:37

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 07:34

Then don't play map with general enable, play with a map without general

Which leaves out the main competitive map which is played 99.9% of the time in duel and clan war. euro+ extra cities. So that also does not work.

At-war is not base on duel and clan war, it's also base on scenario and custom map, like 13th century: scourge of God map, where there's no general involve

I am aware, however the point of the post is to encourage more players to play competitive gameplay that don't want to play against a general with an obvious disadvantage or lose earned upgrades.

That not your point, your first statement or comment wasn't about player should play more competitive game it was obvious you meant based on ally type of map.
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19.04.2015 - 07:58
Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 07:53

Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 07:49

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 07:44

Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 07:37

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 07:34

Then don't play map with general enable, play with a map without general

Which leaves out the main competitive map which is played 99.9% of the time in duel and clan war. euro+ extra cities. So that also does not work.

At-war is not base on duel and clan war, it's also base on scenario and custom map, like 13th century: scourge of God map, where there's no general involve

I am aware, however the point of the post is to encourage more players to play competitive gameplay that don't want to play against a general with an obvious disadvantage or lose earned upgrades.

That not your point, your first statement or comment wasn't about player should play more competitive game it was obvious you meant based on ally type of map.

Where in the following statement (my original post) supports what you are saying? Hence the part 'this will allow duels and clan wars to be more fair and accessible to non-premium members;. Seems like a troll argument as you obviously have not read the first statement.
Skrevet av The Bastard, 18.04.2015 at 19:27

An option to disable general in the game settings, this will allow duels and clan wars to be more fair and accessible to non-premium members and might also go some way to stop the premium-fag bitching.
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19.04.2015 - 08:04
Skrevet av Guest, 18.04.2015 at 20:50

Skrevet av Chess, 18.04.2015 at 19:51

Or just use the no upgrades option.



strong argument yes, very constructive, thanks.
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19.04.2015 - 08:05
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Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 07:58

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 07:53

Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 07:49

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 07:44

Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 07:37

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 07:34

Then don't play map with general enable, play with a map without general

Which leaves out the main competitive map which is played 99.9% of the time in duel and clan war. euro+ extra cities. So that also does not work.

At-war is not base on duel and clan war, it's also base on scenario and custom map, like 13th century: scourge of God map, where there's no general involve

I am aware, however the point of the post is to encourage more players to play competitive gameplay that don't want to play against a general with an obvious disadvantage or lose earned upgrades.

That not your point, your first statement or comment wasn't about player should play more competitive game it was obvious you meant based on ally type of map.

Where in the following statement (my original post) supports what you are saying? Hence the part 'this will allow duels and clan wars to be more fair and accessible to non-premium members;. Seems like a troll argument as you obviously have not read the first statement.
Skrevet av The Bastard, 18.04.2015 at 19:27

An option to disable general in the game settings, this will allow duels and clan wars to be more fair and accessible to non-premium members and might also go some way to stop the premium-fag bitching.


I don't really care if we have the setting tbh, but developer will lose money as most other multiplayer games also have advantages from paying as well, at-war is not the only one.
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19.04.2015 - 08:15
Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:05


I don't really care if we have the setting tbh, but developer will lose money as most other multiplayer games also have advantages from paying as well, at-war is not the only one.

Atwar claims on their homepage and in sales and promotional literature that this game is NOT pay to win and only gives players more variety, in my opinion this can be construed misleading, as the general provides players with an OP advantage. Also I don't think your argument concerning the impact on revenue has any substance as there are no comparative numbers, as nothing like this has been trialed before.
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19.04.2015 - 08:21
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Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:15

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:05


I don't really care if we have the setting tbh, but developer will lose money as most other multiplayer games also have advantages from paying as well, at-war is not the only one.

Atwar claims on their homepage and in sales and promotional literature that this game is NOT pay to win and only gives players more variety(slightly misleading) when a general gives players an OP advantage. Also I don't think your argument concerning the impact on revenue has any substance as there are no comparative numbers, as nothing like this has been trialed before.

You don't win games because of generla it's because of how you play this game
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19.04.2015 - 08:31
Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:21

Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:15

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:05


I don't really care if we have the setting tbh, but developer will lose money as most other multiplayer games also have advantages from paying as well, at-war is not the only one.

Atwar claims on their homepage and in sales and promotional literature that this game is NOT pay to win and only gives players more variety(slightly misleading) when a general gives players an OP advantage. Also I don't think your argument concerning the impact on revenue has any substance as there are no comparative numbers, as nothing like this has been trialed before.

You don't win games because of generla it's because of how you play this game


Try telling that to the dozens of non-premium players I have spoken to that are reluctant to play duels and clan wars because of the perceived advantage premium players have with a general. I am not calling for the removal of the general altogether, just to disable it when all players in a particular game agree to. You are telling me that in Ukraine vs Turkey the general doesn't provide a major advantage? I still don't think you understand or have read the topic properly.
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19.04.2015 - 10:19
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Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:04

Skrevet av Guest, 18.04.2015 at 20:50

Skrevet av Chess, 18.04.2015 at 19:51

Or just use the no upgrades option.



strong argument yes, very constructive, thanks.

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19.04.2015 - 11:00
Skrevet av Chess, 18.04.2015 at 19:51

Or just use the no upgrades option.

But there is an difference between no upgrades and no general . I already suggest this before too. It would be fun to see some games with no general bonuses. Its a big difference
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Skrevet av Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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19.04.2015 - 11:05
Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:15

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:05


I don't really care if we have the setting tbh, but developer will lose money as most other multiplayer games also have advantages from paying as well, at-war is not the only one.

Atwar claims on their homepage and in sales and promotional literature that this game is NOT pay to win and only gives players more variety, in my opinion this can be construed misleading, as the general provides players with an OP advantage. Also I don't think your argument concerning the impact on revenue has any substance as there are no comparative numbers, as nothing like this has been trialed before.

You are pretty right haha, people are kind of forced to become premium to keep up with the rest, with this I am talking about making your own private games, 100+ cities, scenarios, more strategies (which are variable) and even 20% of the upgrades are for the premium strats/general things. There is a big devided space between non-premiums and premiums. And I didnt even start about not being able to make your own clan if you are non-premium nor be leader/officer of a clan . I dont know if you were from 2011/2012, but at those times everybody had generals, it was pretty nice that everybody had the rights to have an general and could have the benefits of it. To bad they removed that due the moneys D:.

I suggest this option long ago, even suggested to bring back the generals for everybody! but none of them were listened to ;_;
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Skrevet av Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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19.04.2015 - 11:07
Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:31

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:21

Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:15

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:05


I don't really care if we have the setting tbh, but developer will lose money as most other multiplayer games also have advantages from paying as well, at-war is not the only one.

Atwar claims on their homepage and in sales and promotional literature that this game is NOT pay to win and only gives players more variety(slightly misleading) when a general gives players an OP advantage. Also I don't think your argument concerning the impact on revenue has any substance as there are no comparative numbers, as nothing like this has been trialed before.

You don't win games because of generla it's because of how you play this game


Try telling that to the dozens of non-premium players I have spoken to that are reluctant to play duels and clan wars because of the perceived advantage premium players have with a general. I am not calling for the removal of the general altogether, just to disable it when all players in a particular game agree to. You are telling me that in Ukraine vs Turkey the general doesn't provide a major advantage? I still don't think you understand or have read the topic properly.

#rekked xD
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Skrevet av Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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19.04.2015 - 11:15
In my duels players with no general unit only need to ask me not to use mine.
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19.04.2015 - 11:25
Skrevet av Goblin, 19.04.2015 at 11:15

In my duels players with no general unit only need to ask me not to use mine.

Simple options are the best and a suicidal general can work, agreed. Not sure how this would work with 6 players in a clan war though and the extra unnecessary confusion it would create, or any other game for that matter. Hence the reasoning for this proposal.
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19.04.2015 - 11:58
Support, general gives unfair advantage against non premiun,besides it is only an option
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19.04.2015 - 12:43
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I see a lot of good gen less players who are quite humble. a gen less playing field will level the option.
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19.04.2015 - 13:10
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Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:31

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:21

Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 08:15

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 08:05


I don't really care if we have the setting tbh, but developer will lose money as most other multiplayer games also have advantages from paying as well, at-war is not the only one.

Atwar claims on their homepage and in sales and promotional literature that this game is NOT pay to win and only gives players more variety(slightly misleading) when a general gives players an OP advantage. Also I don't think your argument concerning the impact on revenue has any substance as there are no comparative numbers, as nothing like this has been trialed before.

You don't win games because of generla it's because of how you play this game


Try telling that to the dozens of non-premium players I have spoken to that are reluctant to play duels and clan wars because of the perceived advantage premium players have with a general. I am not calling for the removal of the general altogether, just to disable it when all players in a particular game agree to. You are telling me that in Ukraine vs Turkey the general doesn't provide a major advantage? I still don't think you understand or have read the topic properly.

those low rank are noob they should duel in 3k or 5k
i remember a rank 6 play blitz ukraine and beat riddler a rank 9 wehn he was turkey. with and without general.. I don't know why admin took out general from everyone because everyone had it in afterwind.Please tell me why
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19.04.2015 - 13:19
Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 13:10

those low rank are noob they should duel in 3k or 5k

.. rank isn't the issue here

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 13:10

I don't know why admin took out general from everyone because everyone had it in afterwind.Please tell me why

For economic reasons I assume, to incentivise more players to purchase premium, contradicting the no pay to win policy the game proudly boasts.
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19.04.2015 - 13:36
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Skrevet av The Bastard, 19.04.2015 at 13:19

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 13:10

those low rank are noob they should duel in 3k or 5k

.. rank isn't the issue here

Skrevet av Htin, 19.04.2015 at 13:10

I don't know why admin took out general from everyone because everyone had it in afterwind.Please tell me why

For economic reasons I assume, to incentivise more players to purchase premium, contradicting the no pay to win policy the game proudly boasts.

You don't win by having a general, you win because you know how to play the game, that what they meant, like all other game it's not pay to win but some premium player have some slight advantage against another opponent. like I says i am fine if they have a no general option, but the questions is would it be access to nonpremium player as well or only premium for that setting.
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