Do you think uk/germ-turk/ukr is unfair?

Skrevet av Mr_Own_U, 17.10.2014 at 17:02

Uk germ Volga combo smashes ukr Turk combo

indeed, you should try it against us sometime.

lol clovis dat gif in your sig wtf

Skrevet av Permamuted, 17.10.2014 at 17:46

Skrevet av Mr_Own_U, 17.10.2014 at 17:02

Uk germ Volga combo smashes ukr Turk combo

indeed, you should try it against us sometime.

lol clovis dat gif in your sig wtf

Ok

I still don't see how anyone can claim it's unfair, when they 100% have a chance to stop it (by taking one of those countries), because turns alternate..

I think Ukr and Turk can be unfair (even though Kaliraa is correct) but frankly, I dont feel that UK-Germ combo is OP. Spain or farnce just takes all of italy turn 1 and hits balkans hard and then the other can decide to hit ireland or belgium/ netherlands.

Easy fix, enemy goes ukr your turn to pick you go turk, regardless if your bad as turk or not, a player should learn to play all countries after all shouldn't they?

unless of course you think it's better to let the enemy get turk and your team get a different combo, in my opinion if the enemy chooses ukr then you choose Uk you can't just expect that to mean that the other team won't go for turk if you can get the best combination of country picks then try get them it's simple as that

these people who complain about ukr turk or germ uk are usually those who are unable to play more then 1 country and just expect the other team not to combo it's pathetic, but this is all only a noobs opinion

Skrevet av Exo-K, 21.10.2014 at 22:07

Easy fix, enemy goes ukr your turn to pick you go turk, regardless if your bad as turk or not, a player should learn to play all countries after all shouldn't they?

unless of course you think it's better to let the enemy get turk and your team get a different combo, in my opinion if the enemy chooses ukr then you choose Uk you can't just expect that to mean that the other team won't go for turk if you can get the best combination of country picks then try get them it's simple as that

these people who complain about ukr turk or germ uk are usually those who are unable to play more then 1 country and just expect the other team not to combo it's pathetic, but this is all only a noobs opinion

I agree with you tho.

Ukr turkey is unfair (unless you take like poland or greece or italy) uk germany not even close

It's totally fair if you let it happen (since you had a chance to stop it since you take turns choosing countries), as i said before in my previous comment you get turns to choose countries so if your 1st person to pick and don't go turk or ukr and the other team gets both its your own fault and its best to play it out, i've given up counting the countless times i've played 3v3 only to have people bitch about a Germany UK combo and the occasional turk ukr combo, if you let it happen you should have to wear the consequences that follow

people shouldn't just learn and just play 1 country you gotta learn them all so that if your in a position where you must go turk or urk your able to do so

Bump, cause i think this trend needs it since people still complain when it happens

Skrevet av Exo-K, 14.11.2014 at 03:37

Bump, cause i think this trend needs it since people still complain when it happens

Trend?
Uk/germany and turk/ukraine were always counted as regular picks, ofc it was not that much as the standard turk vs ukraine and germ vs uk picks, but the people didn't complain about it.
I have no clue why people suddenly started to bicker about it.. i guess it has something to do with the whole new playstyle the new generation plays with.
Its legal picks, and i find it quiet lame that you get kick or CW gets canceled when you pick one of those combo's....

Sorry ment topic was half asleep when posted

Skrevet av Waffel, 14.11.2014 at 04:51

Skrevet av Exo-K, 14.11.2014 at 03:37

Bump, cause i think this trend needs it since people still complain when it happens

Trend?
Uk/germany and turk/ukraine were always counted as regular picks, ofc it was not that much as the standard turk vs ukraine and germ vs uk picks, but the people didn't complain about it.
I have no clue why people suddenly started to bicker about it.. i guess it has something to do with the whole new playstyle the new generation plays with.
Its legal picks, and i find it quiet lame that you get kick or CW gets canceled when you pick one of those combo's....

perhaps if clans got penalised for leaving cause of bad picks? i don't know would be tough to enforce but just an idea

Skrevet av Exo-K, 14.11.2014 at 04:57

Skrevet av Waffel, 14.11.2014 at 04:51

Skrevet av Exo-K, 14.11.2014 at 03:37

Bump, cause i think this trend needs it since people still complain when it happens

Trend?
Uk/germany and turk/ukraine were always counted as regular picks, ofc it was not that much as the standard turk vs ukraine and germ vs uk picks, but the people didn't complain about it.
I have no clue why people suddenly started to bicker about it.. i guess it has something to do with the whole new playstyle the new generation plays with.
Its legal picks, and i find it quiet lame that you get kick or CW gets canceled when you pick one of those combo's....

perhaps if clans got penalised for leaving cause of bad picks? i don't know would be tough to enforce but just an idea

Hmm, you can't prove if it was disconnection or on purpose, same goes for the missing first turn in clanwar, some people just fail expanding and DC and then say they had lagg.
That would be an endless discussion.

Bleh its not the combo its the players that get the combo and every combo can be countered

Skrevet av 1GodofWar1, 14.11.2014 at 11:07

Bleh its not the combo its the players that get the combo and every combo can be countered

Thats actually what I am saying the whole time.
Look this is a example off it:

Uk started to pick, then Jherinimo took turkey, I took germany and zone started saying why I picked germany, after I said ''Why not?, uk/germany is normal pick, so are ukraine/turkey'' He said: ''haha troll''
This is what is wrong with it, not the pros and the cons off ukraine/turkey & germany/uk combo.
90% of the people dont even give it a try, but insta disconnect or kick the player

This is the SS.

http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=16469#m193768 vote your opinion here

The more formulaic play gets, the less actual thinking is needed. And it seems those who decided it was op are just those who are too afraid of a potential loss to give beating it a go. Therefore I really don't mind these so called "combos".

The most annoying thing is when one team have picked a combo, and then I counter pick the other combo, and then they say it's unfair and quit. This is just highly illogical, and yet depressingly prevalent.

Skrevet av EndsOfInvention, 14.11.2014 at 15:24

The more formulaic play gets, the less actual thinking is needed. And it seems those who decided it was op are just those who are too afraid of a potential loss to give beating it a go. Therefore I really don't mind these so called "combos".

The most annoying thing is when one team have picked a combo, and then I counter pick the other combo, and then they say it's unfair and quit. This is just highly illogical, and yet depressingly prevalent.

Tell me about it D:

I dont see any of you suporting the combos ever played against them in Cws.Same with this debate last year.Most of you are all talk and you dont have actual experience with it, apart maybe some random 3v3s.I remember when i was MK and SM picked Uk-Germany.We whooped their ass. good times But still unfair.
So anyone of you supporters of the combo, played against it on Cw?Against a good clan, no noob clans..if so what was your experience?What happened in the Cw?

Yea theyre all talk, this argument appears time and time again. uk/germ is meh, not that significant an advantage as long as youve a decent plan. Ukr/turk though is too powerful, i would never play against it unless i was in a troll mood. If you understood the capabilities of a competently played ukr/turk you wouldnt either.

to all you daring pros, i challenge you to beat a combo of me/acqui/pont in ukr/turk with any of the other illyrians elsewhere. Some free farm, i'll tip my hat to you if you can find a way to win. Mou and clovis can demonstrate their uk/germ/volga which they assert "smashes ukr/turk" combo.

But gameplay should never become formulaic or require no thinking no matter what picks you play, after turn 1 your gameplay should be completely reactive. especially given how much 3v3s on europe have evolved into a metagame due to clans like mk and stalins.

Skrevet av Khal.eesi, 14.11.2014 at 21:16

I dont see any of you suporting the combos ever played against them in Cws.Same with this debate last year.Most of you are all talk and you dont have actual experience with it, apart maybe some random 3v3s.I remember when i was MK and SM picked Uk-Germany.We whooped their ass. good times But still unfair.
So anyone of you supporters of the combo, played against it on Cw?Against a good clan, no noob clans..if so what was your experience?What happened in the Cw?

this whole forums is mainly agreeing that they are extremely strong, but the thing is THEY CAN BE STOPPED by just having someone go ukr or turk or UK or germany they aren't hard to avoid having to fight against, and that's what most people are saying, that if you choose to for example not stop it then you run the risk of having to go up against it, i maybe still noob but isn't the main goal in picking to get the best country combination you can while stopping the enemy getting a strong one kinda like a strange game of tick tack toe?

this works same for newer clans and older clans, a lotta players are very specialised and great with one country and maybe average or just not as good with another, so they choose their best country even tho in doing so the other clan maybe then able to get a combo but if that other clan did they would be called noob ect for taking a valid pick? for example team 1 chooses UK team 2 has a player great with spain so he takes it, then team 1 is expected not to take germany even tho it's a logical choice? i maybe noob but that just makes no sense at all to me

Skrevet av Khal.eesi, 14.11.2014 at 21:16

I dont see any of you suporting the combos ever played against them in Cws.Same with this debate last year.Most of you are all talk and you dont have actual experience with it, apart maybe some random 3v3s.I remember when i was MK and SM picked Uk-Germany.We whooped their ass. good times But still unfair.
So anyone of you supporters of the combo, played against it on Cw?Against a good clan, no noob clans..if so what was your experience?What happened in the Cw?

Loooooooool. I have played PLENTIES of games with uk-germany/ukr-turk. Yes, not all were win or loses. They were variable. But bro, even if i play 100x vs ukr-turk combo and I lose, doesnt mean they are to OP.. means I played crapy, if as you say, whooped SM's uk-germany combo, it doesn't mean its unable to do it..

And its funny that you and lao are talking about this when you guys joined this game after the people like you complained about the combo.
Yes we al know germany and uk are way more stronger than spain/france still france/spain have a pretty good chance vs them...

And khal, apart from the 1 cw off MK, how many times did you actuall play it? Because here you are once again, as always attacking people and saying stuff without any consequenses.

Skrevet av Permamuted, 14.11.2014 at 22:01

Yea theyre all talk, this argument appears time and time again. uk/germ is meh, not that significant an advantage as long as youve a decent plan. Ukr/turk though is too powerful, i would never play against it unless i was in a troll mood. If you understood the capabilities of a competently played ukr/turk you wouldnt either.

to all you daring pros, i challenge you to beat a combo of me/acqui/pont in ukr/turk with any of the other illyrians elsewhere. Some free farm, i'll tip my hat to you if you can find a way to win. Mou and clovis can demonstrate their uk/germ/volga which they assert "smashes ukr/turk" combo.

But gameplay should never become formulaic or require no thinking no matter what picks you play, after turn 1 your gameplay should be completely reactive. especially given how much 3v3s on europe have evolved into a metagame due to clans like mk and stalins.

Again you say ''I wouldn't play it> understood the capabilities of a competetly played ukr/turk you wouldnt either''
First you start off with a personal thing, then you go and talk about what perhaps others wouldn't either.

>Challenges us to beat a combo of you and acq/pont..
And what? If we lose still doesn't mean its not able.

Nobody said ukr/turk is unbeatable, nor is anyone personally attacking anyone else. God bless you waffel, ever since that bigwall thread you're all freaked out about personal attacks in people's posts, even feeling the need to add disclaimers on your own posts lol.

But look this really is a non issue, but people like you keep making threads about it. And i did laugh that you said you losing 100 times against turk/ukr doesn't mean the combo is too strong it just means you played bad.

Anyone who tells you ukraine/turk combo is not op is either lying or misinformed. I don't care if you have played this game for 4 years and i'm not going to bother attempting to convince you otherwise anymore than i already have. Just go play the game and enjoy it, if you want to play against ukr/turk then by all means do so. Just stop making threads about it.

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

Loooooooool. I have played PLENTIES of games with uk-germany/ukr-turk. Yes, not all were win or loses. They were variable.

plenty*.varied*

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

But bro, even if i play 100x vs ukr-turk combo and I lose, doesnt mean they are to OP..

yes it does

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

means I played crapy

play*
that is a true sentence, but irrelevant to the subject at hand, nonetheless

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

if as you say, whooped SM's uk-germany combo, it doesn't mean its unable to do it..

yes uk-germ combo is far from overpowered.we ve been over this last year..it just gives an advantage to the team who gets it.

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

And its funny that you and lao are talking about this when you guys joined this game after the people like you complained about the combo.

lol how is that funny?did it actually make you laugh?loud or just giggle?nice sense of humour

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

Yes we al know germany and uk are way more stronger than spain/france still france/spain have a pretty good chance vs them...

we can safely say that we can consider
chance from 0-49% being bad,way bad,pretty bad,slightly bad etc
chance from 50-50% being fair,medium,equal
chance from 51-100% being good,way good,pretty good,ugly good and etc

therefore by your own claim that uk/germ are stronger that france/spain, chances cannot be pretty good, under any circumstances.Correct it

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

And khal, apart from the 1 cw off MK, how many times did you actuall play it?

not many, lol.im only masochist in bed waffel, i dont enjoy getting wrecked in atwar by a turk-ukr combo, especially in cws

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

Because here you are once again, as always attacking people

it wasnt my intention to attack anyone im sorry if it came out this way, its just my style.i love everybody hug? <3

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

and saying stuff without any consequenses.

whoah!what consequenses would you prefer for me? :( a fine, prison time, torture??rape?electric chair??!!!!!!



p.s.

Ukr - Turk go broke and then you rush capital turn 4 k.

Skrevet av Permamuted, 17.11.2014 at 05:25

Nobody said ukr/turk is unbeatable, nor is anyone personally attacking anyone else. God bless you waffel, ever since that bigwall thread you're all freaked out about personal attacks in people's posts, even feeling the need to add disclaimers on your own posts lol.

But look this really is a non issue, but people like you keep making threads about it. And i did laugh that you said you losing 100 times against turk/ukr doesn't mean the combo is too strong it just means you played bad.

Anyone who tells you ukraine/turk combo is not op is either lying or misinformed. I don't care if you have played this game for 4 years and i'm not going to bother attempting to convince you otherwise anymore than i already have. Just go play the game and enjoy it, if you want to play against ukr/turk then by all means do so. Just stop making threads about it.

Skrevet av Khal.eesi, 14.11.2014 at 21:16

Most of you are all talk and you dont have actual experience

Not personal attack right.
Also, lao, I have played/seen/whatevermore ukr/turk/uk/ger combos, you only have heard most of how it used to be in the old times. I speak from the experience I have gained within the past years with different kind of people. Thats is what I am speaking of, if you want to believe your story like I have said before go ahead.
I am not saying the thing I say is the truth, but this is what I have seen in my own eyes, so any words of you cant change that.

Also, yes I am freaked out, mostly pissed about it, since that bigwall thread, why? Because you, MOSTLY you kept saying anything else then ''nice personal attack , im not responding'' , 'nice personal attack, this is the reason i dont take you serious'', ''nice personal attack, you cant even come with anything else blabla''
I am disclaming my posts now, because you guys find in every thing a lil thing to make a bigg wuzz off. It is frankly annoying.

When khal comes here says we have no experience and only ''talk'' is a big accusation from him.

Skrevet av Khal.eesi, 17.11.2014 at 10:57

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

Loooooooool. I have played PLENTIES of games with uk-germany/ukr-turk. Yes, not all were win or loses. They were variable.

plenty*.varied*

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

But bro, even if i play 100x vs ukr-turk combo and I lose, doesnt mean they are to OP..

yes it does

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

means I played crapy

play*
that is a true sentence, but irrelevant to the subject at hand, nonetheless

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

if as you say, whooped SM's uk-germany combo, it doesn't mean its unable to do it..

yes uk-germ combo is far from overpowered.we ve been over this last year..it just gives an advantage to the team who gets it.

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

And its funny that you and lao are talking about this when you guys joined this game after the people like you complained about the combo.

lol how is that funny?did it actually make you laugh?loud or just giggle?nice sense of humour

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

Yes we al know germany and uk are way more stronger than spain/france still france/spain have a pretty good chance vs them...

we can safely say that we can consider
chance from 0-49% being bad,way bad,pretty bad,slightly bad etc
chance from 50-50% being fair,medium,equal
chance from 51-100% being good,way good,pretty good,ugly good and etc

therefore by your own claim that uk/germ are stronger that france/spain, chances cannot be pretty good, under any circumstances.Correct it

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

And khal, apart from the 1 cw off MK, how many times did you actuall play it?

not many, lol.im only masochist in bed waffel, i dont enjoy getting wrecked in atwar by a turk-ukr combo, especially in cws

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

Because here you are once again, as always attacking people

it wasnt my intention to attack anyone im sorry if it came out this way, its just my style.i love everybody hug? <3

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 03:03

and saying stuff without any consequenses.

whoah!what consequenses would you prefer for me? :( a fine, prison time, torture??rape?electric chair??!!!!!!



p.s.

And actually what was the point of responding?
Correcting 1 typo and failed on 3 ''typos''?
You dont enjoy getting wrecked thats why you call those combos ''op'' those combos have been here since the beginning of the game, and those combo's went through different generations but it seems like the generation of you and lao, i think mostly only you and lao seems to complain about those things.
I find it outrageous i cant even make threads lets stand even say something without getting in an discussions/fight with you nor lao...... and then you guys get mad at some point and start ignoring me or trashtalk like wtf ....

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 11:20

I find it outrageous i cant even make threads lets stand even say something without getting in an discussions/fight with you nor lao...... and then you guys get mad at some point and start ignoring me or trashtalk like wtf ....

i find it outrageous you cant edit a post, without doubleposting

i also find it outrageous, that you live in one of the most advanced countries in the world and clovis who lives in the jungle knows better english than you

<3

Skrevet av Khal.eesi, 17.11.2014 at 11:28

Skrevet av Waffel, 17.11.2014 at 11:20

I find it outrageous i cant even make threads lets stand even say something without getting in an discussions/fight with you nor lao...... and then you guys get mad at some point and start ignoring me or trashtalk like wtf ....

i find it outrageous you cant edit a post, without doubleposting

i also find it outrageous, that you live in one of the most advanced countries in the world and clovis who lives in the jungle knows better english than you

<3

Lol? You are actually insulting your self here, because my english is better than yours.. you cant even fking spell ''laugh''
Also khal, dont respond to me if its not about this topic, if you want to mock about accidently clickon on quote instead of edit then pr me in the game. if not, get lost.