Free palestine

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 27.12.2016 at 08:45

Lol at how many people are uninformed about Israeli status in the Middle East.

Israel is 20,000km/2 and have only 6 million people, and Arab countries around them still cry 'occupation' and invade them although they have millions of square kilometers of land and hundreds of millions people.

Israeli settlement in Canaan 3000 years ago can be considered illegal by human laws, but it was God's will and Canaanites were destroying themselves anyway with their satanite sodomite lifestyle. Israel returning in 1948 was legal because there was no state there before, Turkish Empire collapsed and region was English colony(like the rest 3/4 of the world occupied by ginger soul-less freckles).

The Satanite-led World is slowly uniting against Israel, last time they failed when they created Nazi Germany and Nazi Croatia to exterminate Jews, because 2/3 of Jews were in America and USSR who beat the Nazis. Now when Jews are secured in Israel, their own country, satanites find it hard to destroy them, so they are using propaganda, mass media, false history and all nations to spread anti-semitism, lies and instill hate in people so they can use them in war against Israel soon.

Israel will put up a fight, but maybe lose, which is not to worry as nation protected by God cannot lose against satanite led humans. How can a law abbiding human be defeated by pedophile vatican led pagan who pray to gold statues and bow to money, monetary currency. That's just silly. Satanites teach that dead is final, while we know 'death' is only a sleep before God's arrival. After the war, Jews get ressurected and dead pagans don't, lol who win then.

Armaggedon is near.


p.s.
call me a zionist again JimKim, it will be an honor

Shut up zionist

Skrevet av Guest, 26.12.2016 at 23:00

Only returned because Slave masters USA allowed it

That's irrelevant, the fact of the matter is that it is their historic homeland, and they have defended it from their warmongering neighbors countless times for half a century, and have crushed them every time

Skrevet av Guest, 26.12.2016 at 23:00

so they can commit war crimes against the true owners of that territory.

The idea that Israel has committed any crimes against the so called "Palestinians" is laughable, besides, they're the true owners of Israel, how are they committing crimes against themselves?

Skrevet av Guest, 26.12.2016 at 23:00

Why does Israel have to be so greedy?...

Yes, Israel is so greedy for wanting to live in peace with their neighbors, to not live under constant threat of invasion and terrorism, and to not be attacked by autistic keyboard warriors like you, how greedy and selfish

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 27.12.2016 at 08:45

People like Tito are the reason all Christians will never be united in one faith again

Skrevet av Viruslegion, 27.12.2016 at 13:01

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 27.12.2016 at 08:45

People like Tito are the reason all Christians will never be united in one faith again

Typical western behaviour of perpetual accusing and blaming game, nothing new.

Instead, take a look at Vatican and its history. When Greeks send emmisaries to help Slavs create an alphabet by INVITE, Vatican panicked and rushed to catholicize as much Slavs as possible so they can be divided and never unite (Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Croatians, Slovenians). Poland, natural brother of Russia is now arch enemy who use LATIN script instead cyrilic like Russians. Vatican did a good job 1000 years ago.

The Great Schism of 1054 was started by VATICAN and not the Eastern Christianity because Vatican wanted power, not religion. They created a bank, administration, board of directors, they even have a state and guards. That's not a church, that's not a religion. That's a sect, a corporation, some sick hybrid of two.

While Greeks TEACHED religion to Slavs, OFFERING them christian religion, Vatican IMPOSED its religion on other nations, it tortured people in France and Spain for 'sorcery and witchcraft' it colonized Latin America with its religion by burning and killing everyone who 'didn't accept christ and the 'holy' church'.

So if you want to talk ecumenism, start by reading why it isn't united in the first place. Then you will realize ecumenism is not possible when you want 'equal' rights of West and East christianity, not after 1000 years when catholicism is not religion anymore, so you can't mix it with religion, that's what satanites want.

That's why i support Israel, they didn't change their tradition and identity like other nations. They are still the same, while others are changing, 'liberalizing', creating some ideologies and create false history to suit their political goal.

Skrevet av Viruslegion, 27.12.2016 at 13:01

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 27.12.2016 at 08:45

People like Tito are the reason all Christians will never be united in one faith again

USA people are the reason all Christians will never be united in one faith again......

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 27.12.2016 at 13:10

Vatican panicked and rushed to catholicize as much Slavs as possible so they can be divided and never unite (Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Croatians, Slovenians).

If that's the case and they all want to unite so bad then why haven't they converted and united already? Could it be they don't want to?

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 27.12.2016 at 13:10

Poland, natural brother of Russia

Yeah, Russia showed how much of a natural brother it was through the repeated invasions, partitions, and repression of Poles

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 27.12.2016 at 13:10

The Great Schism of 1054 was started by VATICAN and not the Eastern Christianity

Wrong

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 27.12.2016 at 13:10

Vatican IMPOSED its religion on other nations, it tortured people in France and Spain for 'sorcery and witchcraft' it colonized Latin America with its religion by burning and killing everyone who 'didn't accept christ and the 'holy' church'.

No, that would be the governments of France, Spain, and Portugal, you seem to confuse the Religion with the State a lot for someone who thinks he's an expert

Skrevet av Skanderbeg, 27.12.2016 at 13:10

catholicism is not religion anymore

Top kek, the Church founded by Christ isn't a Religion, what a great Christian you are

Skrevet av The Tactician, 27.12.2016 at 05:19

I'll continue this later, as now I have other matters to tend to, but know that we're different sides of the same coin. A coin that is unfortunately mixed up in constant conflict, and everyone deserves their rights. Not just Palestinians, and not just Israelis. Everyone.

Good way to ditch a thread when you have nothing to say anymore. When all your baseless statements are disproved. At least I hope you realised you're talking nonsense. If not though, keep chanting "Free Palestine" while your government go about its thing being corrupted institution like most of the Arab world, it will surely give you better life standards.
Cheers.

Iseal is doing many war crimes in palestine kill inocent people most of them are kids. so all of you saying palestine is doing the bad stuff your yrong isrea is doing lots of bad stuff thats a ileagal but nobody cares because the social media is trying to convince you that palestine is bad but its not so stop saying nasty stuff about palestine

Its hard to find Titos post without Croatia mentioned at least once in it.

Skrevet av Guest, 27.12.2016 at 20:39

In 1967 Israel won control of the West Bank as a result of its success in the Six Day War. Its then prime minister Levi Eshkol wanted to consolidate control by planting settlements on the occupied territory. He asked Theodor Meron , his chief legal adviser, whether this would be legal.
No, said Meron. The Geneva Convention says no nation may settle its own population on land it wins in war."
- By Bob Carr (Former Australian Foreign Minister)

All those settlements, all illegal.

Clearly they aren't illegal... or else every nation in the world would be voting to prevent settlement development in the occupied territory, except maybe the occupier... oh wait, who didn't vote against it?

These people keep saying israel want to live in peace all that bullshit..listen palestinian was there way before israeli zionist came to palestine..the zionist took their lands and act like its their land..zionist keep on bombing palestinian homes hospitals schools and all that..they have all the military equipment in the world..and they act like theyre the victim..14-0 vote supporting palestine and they ignored it..that shows that zionist is a war criminal..they want to build homes in palestine land for israeli..wtf is that..they complaint that jews wont live in peace if palestine is in control? Now israel is in control..who's not living in peace? Palestine..palestinian aren't living in peace. Even our holy mosque masjid al aqsa are controlled by the zionist..even worse they wanted to destroy it and built solomon temple there..how cruel these zionist are..how many international.law did israel.broke? All these jews cant live in peace is bullshit..look at how peaceful israeli are..kids are playing with guns..they even have billionaires in their country..while palestinian dont have any water..those zionist were having a water carnival.and all that shit..stupid zionist you won't fool me

Skrevet av Guest, 27.12.2016 at 20:39

In 1967 Israel won control of the West Bank as a result of its success in the Six Day War. Its then prime minister Levi Eshkol wanted to consolidate control by planting settlements on the occupied territory. He asked Theodor Meron , his chief legal adviser, whether this would be legal.
No, said Meron. The Geneva Convention says no nation may settle its own population on land it wins in war."
- By Bob Carr (Former Australian Foreign Minister)

All those settlements, all illegal.

That's funny, because they started thinking about resetelling judea and samaria long after the war, generally levi eshkol and his party who ruled Israel those days resisted to that idea for years.

the west bank was captured from Jordan, Jeruslaem originally ment to be none prophecy (international soil controled by the un) but the arabs helped the jordanians to conquere east jeruslaem, all jews got deported from east jerusalem and they used the holy jewish temper (the most sacred places in history to the jews) tunnels as sewerage systems (they finished cleaning it only in the eightees).

if it's not clear already, based on the International law Israel has been acquitted three or four times already in hague international court to the international law.

Skrevet av Guest, 27.12.2016 at 22:19

These people keep saying israel want to live in peace all that bullshit..listen palestinian was there way before israeli zionist came to palestine..the zionist took their lands and act like its their land..zionist keep on bombing palestinian homes hospitals schools and all that..they have all the military equipment in the world..and they act like theyre the victim..14-0 vote supporting palestine and they ignored it..that shows that zionist is a war criminal..they want to build homes in palestine land for israeli..wtf is that..they complaint that jews wont live in peace if palestine is in control? Now israel is in control..who's not living in peace? Palestine..palestinian aren't living in peace. Even our holy mosque masjid al aqsa are controlled by the zionist..even worse they wanted to destroy it and built solomon temple there..how cruel these zionist are..how many international.law did israel.broke? All these jews cant live in peace is bullshit..look at how peaceful israeli are..kids are playing with guns..they even have billionaires in their country..while palestinian dont have any water..those zionist were having a water carnival.and all that shit..stupid zionist you won't fool me

at this point i did'nt even read more than the first two sentences, your next comment i do not intend to read at all, you ignore four pages of debate and repeat the same claims that you were'nt able to defend over and over.

Tito loved using the same tactics to troll us, you actually try to persaude anyone with that

Skrevet av Netzer, 27.12.2016 at 15:23

Skrevet av The Tactician, 27.12.2016 at 05:19

I'll continue this later, as now I have other matters to tend to, but know that we're different sides of the same coin. A coin that is unfortunately mixed up in constant conflict, and everyone deserves their rights. Not just Palestinians, and not just Israelis. Everyone.

Good way to ditch a thread when you have nothing to say anymore. When all your baseless statements are disproved. At least I hope you realised you're talking nonsense. If not though, keep chanting "Free Palestine" while your government go about its thing being corrupted institution like most of the Arab world, it will surely give you better life standards.
Cheers.

you're so blinded by hatred and aggression it's really ridiculous. I was just going to respond now. Oh well, at least Roai is reasonable enough to debate with. If saying Free Palestine gets under your skin then that shows how much your hatred really is. You act like I'm brainlessly chanting Free Palestine all day and not seeing what my or others' governments are doing... so shallow. Keep being hostile. At least I know when my government is wrong (most of the time).

Skrevet av Rock Lee, 27.12.2016 at 04:59

Skrevet av The Tactician, 27.12.2016 at 04:53

I'm sorry for what happened to your family, but it isn't like that everywhere, and that isn't Islam. That is brutality by people misinterpreting religion or not interpreting it at all. I get the wanting to establish your own state, but that still doesn't justify what happened to Palestine and Palestinians, as nothing justifies the actions perpetrated against your family.

In the end of the day, what happened has happened, and we should now look for solutions rather than pointing fingers. Palestinians need to live as much as Israelis do, and considering so, emptying the settlements on their shrunken land or getting them UN recognition isn't too much to ask for.

i did'nt share that story to seek compasion, i was trying to make you understand that even though islam has bright sides of philosophy and morals, due test of time it failed, everywhere, every region where jews lived under muslim hands has its own stories, even though it's not everyone and everytime it's certainly everywhere, and if we talked generally, the muslim institues failed or did'nt even try to protect them.

what happened to palestine and to the palestinians is part of the debate we are having in other comments, and i expect to continue it

This doesn't have much to do with Islamic institutions. Al Azhar is not ruling the country, Al Azhar never said kill anyone.This is to do with corrupt Arab (not Muslim, Arab) leaders and institutions that fail to act when action is needed. Now we see the same failure to act on the Israeli side when the tables are turned and Palestinians are struggling to live.

Anyone with half a brain can conclude that it's not just one side's fault. Everyone involved has been wrong somewhere. However, the wrongs that are happening now are affecting the Palestinian side the most, and this needs to be fixed. My position on the creation of Israel is clear and unmoved, but now that you're here, everyone involved needs to work to give Palestinians a decent life, and to give them the land they legislatively deserve.

Skrevet av Rock Lee, 27.12.2016 at 22:25

Skrevet av Guest, 27.12.2016 at 22:19

These people keep saying israel want to live in peace all that bullshit..listen palestinian was there way before israeli zionist came to palestine..the zionist took their lands and act like its their land..zionist keep on bombing palestinian homes hospitals schools and all that..they have all the military equipment in the world..and they act like theyre the victim..14-0 vote supporting palestine and they ignored it..that shows that zionist is a war criminal..they want to build homes in palestine land for israeli..wtf is that..they complaint that jews wont live in peace if palestine is in control? Now israel is in control..who's not living in peace? Palestine..palestinian aren't living in peace. Even our holy mosque masjid al aqsa are controlled by the zionist..even worse they wanted to destroy it and built solomon temple there..how cruel these zionist are..how many international.law did israel.broke? All these jews cant live in peace is bullshit..look at how peaceful israeli are..kids are playing with guns..they even have billionaires in their country..while palestinian dont have any water..those zionist were having a water carnival.and all that shit..stupid zionist you won't fool me

at this point i did'nt even read more than the first two sentences, your next comment i do not intend to read at all, you ignore four pages of debate and repeat the same claims that you were'nt able to defend over and over.

Tito loved using the same tactics to troll us, you actually try to persaude anyone with that

Shut up zionist and admit that you zionists are a war criminal.

Skrevet av The Tactician, 28.12.2016 at 00:05

This doesn't have much to do with Islamic institutions. Al Azhar is not ruling the country, Al Azhar never said kill anyone.This is to do with corrupt Arab (not Muslim, Arab) leaders and institutions that fail to act when action is needed. Now we see the same failure to act on the Israeli side when the tables are turned and Palestinians are struggling to live.

Anyone with half a brain can conclude that it's not just one side's fault. Everyone involved has been wrong somewhere. However, the wrongs that are happening now are affecting the Palestinian side the most, and this needs to be fixed. My position on the creation of Israel is clear and unmoved, but now that you're here, everyone involved needs to work to give Palestinians a decent life, and to give them the land they legislatively deserve.

so over course of history, how many muslim leaders and institutes did their role correctly? you too realize that it's redicilous, disprivilige torture and murder toward minorities repeated in every muslim country in every time.

so you desided to ignore and leave our previous debates behind, that's ok, i apperciate you attitude but i obviously don't agree with you about the details.

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 02:34

Shut up zionist and admit that you zionists are a war criminal.

Troll, even your prejudiced un counsils did'nt manage to bring evidence to that rubbish.

Also, i wonder how many muslims country would be charged for war crimes after the first day of investigation if the un did give a shit about their wars and bother to investigate

Skrevet av Rock Lee, 28.12.2016 at 02:38

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 02:34

Shut up zionist and admit that you zionists are a war criminal.

Troll, even your prejudiced un counsils did'nt manage to bring evidence to that rubbish.

Stupid zionist. Admit that you guys are terrorist and war criminal. Stop bombing innocent people schools,hospitals,houses of.palestinian. and also stop building houses for israeli on palestinian land. Free palestine. Zionist dont have rights to destroy palestine. Free palestine free palestine

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 02:40

Skrevet av Rock Lee, 28.12.2016 at 02:38

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 02:34

Shut up zionist and admit that you zionists are a war criminal.

Troll, even your prejudiced un counsils did'nt manage to bring evidence to that rubbish.

Stupid zionist. Admit that you guys are terrorist and war criminal. Stop bombing innocent people schools,hospitals,houses of.palestinian. and also stop building houses for israeli on palestinian land. Free palestine. Zionist dont have rights to destroy palestine. Free palestine free palestine

the less you have to say the more you repat slogans like free palestine and war crimes

Skrevet av Rock Lee, 28.12.2016 at 02:42

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 02:40

Skrevet av Rock Lee, 28.12.2016 at 02:38

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 02:34

Shut up zionist and admit that you zionists are a war criminal.

Troll, even your prejudiced un counsils did'nt manage to bring evidence to that rubbish.

Stupid zionist. Admit that you guys are terrorist and war criminal. Stop bombing innocent people schools,hospitals,houses of.palestinian. and also stop building houses for israeli on palestinian land. Free palestine. Zionist dont have rights to destroy palestine. Free palestine free palestine

the less you have to say the more you repat slogans like free palestine and war crimes

14-0 votes shows how much people realised that israel is a war criminal..even uk voted supporting palestine..free palestine and stop killing innocent people

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 02:44

14-0 votes shows how much people realised that israel is a war criminal..even uk voted supporting palestine..free palestine and stop killing innocent people

yea! fuck logic! tantrum!!!!!!!!!

Skrevet av Rock Lee, 28.12.2016 at 02:45

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 02:44

14-0 votes shows how much people realised that israel is a war criminal..even uk voted supporting palestine..free palestine and stop killing innocent people

yea! fuck logic! tantrum!!!!!!!!!

Free palestine, say NO to war criminal.aka regime zionist

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 02:48

Skrevet av Rock Lee, 28.12.2016 at 02:45

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 02:44

14-0 votes shows how much people realised that israel is a war criminal..even uk voted supporting palestine..free palestine and stop killing innocent people

yea! fuck logic! tantrum!!!!!!!!!

Free palestine, say NO to war criminal.aka regime zionist

i like the way you are spamming your own thread, perhaps that's what happening your opening a debate and losing

Skrevet av Rock Lee, 28.12.2016 at 02:52

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 02:48

Skrevet av Rock Lee, 28.12.2016 at 02:45

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 02:44

14-0 votes shows how much people realised that israel is a war criminal..even uk voted supporting palestine..free palestine and stop killing innocent people

yea! fuck logic! tantrum!!!!!!!!!

Free palestine, say NO to war criminal.aka regime zionist

i like the way you are spamming your own thread, perhaps that's what happening your opening a debate and losing

You skipped my.comment. what are you saying lol. Free palestine. Say no to zionist war criminal 14-0 votes and zionist cuts off all diplomatic relation that votes..france,new zealand,venezuela,russia,uk and many other countries..they even ignored the regelations and chose to continue building houses and steal more land from palestine. Gtfo here zionist

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 03:18

You skipped my.comment. what are you saying lol. Free palestine. Say no to zionist war criminal 14-0 votes and zionist cuts off all diplomatic relation that votes..france,new zealand,venezuela,russia,uk and many other countries..they even ignored the regelations and chose to continue building houses and steal more land from palestine. Gtfo here zionist

well then, you open a thread with tens of claims that you could'nt defend, forced us to spend time and nerves and then you cowardly abandoned that debate and desperately started spamming your own thread to avoid embrassment and now you are coming back telling me that all this does'nt matter and a vote based on interests and diplomatic power is indication to truth reality and what is right or wrong?



sorry for ignoring your comment, i honestly thought you were trolling

also, don't use terms "stolen lands" or pretend to know what is happening the the administrations when you can't defend any or your claims, you lost that privilige

Skrevet av Rock Lee, 28.12.2016 at 03:37

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 03:18

You skipped my.comment. what are you saying lol. Free palestine. Say no to zionist war criminal 14-0 votes and zionist cuts off all diplomatic relation that votes..france,new zealand,venezuela,russia,uk and many other countries..they even ignored the regelations and chose to continue building houses and steal more land from palestine. Gtfo here zionist

well then, you open a thread with tens of claims that you could'nt defend, forced us to spend time and nerves and then you cowardly abandoned that debate and desperately started spamming your own thread to avoid embrassment and now you are coming back telling me that all this does'nt matter and a vote based on interests and diplomatic power is indication to truth reality and what is right or wrong?

sorry for ignoring your comment, i honestly thought you were trolling

also, don't use terms "stolen lands" or pretend to know what is happening the the administrations when you can't defend any or your claims, you lost that privilige

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/world/israel-warned-new-zealand-that-un-resolution-was-declaration-of-war-report-20161227-gtiogk.html

The UN Security Council resolution called for Israel to stop building settlements on occupied Palestinian land. It went as far as declaring the settlements "illegal".
If you continue to promote this resolution from our point of view it will be a declaration of war. It will rupture the relations and there will be consequences." Look at this war criminal asking new zealand ambassador not to vote against him..look at this war criminal building settlements on occupied palestinian land..shame

My god how the quality of off topic forum has fallen. I m surprised you take the time to develop your arguments and present facts to an illiterate kid like kingjim.

I dont love jews any more than i love muslims, but the truth is the truth, here are the FACTS.

- Palestine was historically jewish land. Romans named it like that because jews were being fags and revolting all the time. Arabs didnt even exist then.
- Arabs didnt settle in the area they conquered it by force. It was never their land, they have no historic claim. If they do then Italians and Greeks have even stronger claims since they conquered the area before muslims (alexander- romans-byzantines)
- After Ottoman got raped Britain got control and then decided to give a small patch of land where Jews have always been living, to jews. It was British land so they could do whatever the hell they wanted with it. Thats the fact.

Now my opinion: Since Ottomans got 99% of their land through conquest and Muslims got 90% of their land through conquest, it would be certainly fair if the West after ww2 got all the Middle East back and give it back to Jews and Europeans. Middle Eastern arabs are damn lucky Europeans moved away from imperialism, if it was me in the wheel at the time, i would force all muslims to move back to where they started, Arabia.

- Palestine was an area very scarcily settled by muslims. The majority were jews, you can check newspapers at the time, even their money was jewish. AFTER the state of Israel was created, arabs highjacked the term Palestine because jews had no use for it and started using it as propaganda.

- Palestinian arabs wasnt even a real thing, its mostly Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians and muslim traders.

- Arabs attacked Israel first.
-Arabs declined the 2 state solution.
-Arabs kept their own people in refugee camps not Jews. Jews welcomed their own refugees with open arms, even though they didnt have enough resources at the time.
-Jews gave back the land they took after the Arab coalition failed to destroy them. Jews send peace request after, Arabs declined it.
-Jews elected a nationalistic moron as p.m. i agree, but Palestinians elected terrorist organization and all the Middle East has dictators and Jihadists for leaders, so theres no comparison.
- Lastly Israel has been on the defensive the last decade, sure it has segregated Arab Palestinians, but can you blame them? They go on suicide attacks killing civilians all the time, send rockets every day and then use schools and hospitals as human shields, what would you do?

-The one thing Israel is on the wrong are the settlements, i believe they are illegal and unethical.

But looking at the situation as a whole, Israel did 1 wrong whereas Arabs have already done 20 wrongs and these are the facts that simple minded muslims with their " Zionist evil, zionist die, free palestine" cant disprove.


P.S. As for you Tactician, you cannot hide behind willfull ignorance anymore ( in simple terms " oh tact is a good guy he just doesnt know) because you have internet and you should know better. So i conclude you are a liar, you lie to us and you lie to yourself whenever you put the tape about peacefull moderate muslims and blame wahhabism for everything.

Egypt in the 2013 pew research poll got a staggering 80% support for death penalty on apostacy. Thats your moderates? Maybe you stop blatantly lying to our face as if we are idiots and cant read. Attacks on christians happen all the fucking time, recently 25 christians died in a church bombing. Tell me when was muslims ever attacked in a Western country? Never. Anyway i wont delve into this more, talking about all the other facets of human rights abuses, its common knowledge, just check the human rights watch reports for Egypt and other muslim countries (including that hellhole Malaysia) and you can reach your conclusion. It doesnt matter if you and your friends are peacefull, that doesnt change anything. There were peacefull families in Nazi Germany and Stalins Russia too, that doesnt mean majority of nazists and stalinists were peacefull and neither that their ideology was healthy.

You might blame West for everything just because the tables turned at 1300 and what Islam did for a thousand years, Europeans did better and more elegantly, but in the end not only did Europeans let you keep your lands (ottomans and arabs did not) but they self critisize all the time, Thats human progress, Germans feel guilty for ww2, Americans feel guilty for the natives, Europeans as a whole feel guilty for colonialism and they all now have stable, peacefull, secular democracies. Muslim countries refuse to be part of this process, self critique and progress and they are still left in the Middle ages and somehow we are supposed to embrace and accept that. Sorry but no.

Skrevet av Guest, 28.12.2016 at 03:45

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/world/israel-warned-new-zealand-that-un-resolution-was-declaration-of-war-report-20161227-gtiogk.html

The UN Security Council resolution called for Israel to stop building settlements on occupied Palestinian land. It went as far as declaring the settlements "illegal".
If you continue to promote this resolution from our point of view it will be a declaration of war. It will rupture the relations and there will be consequences." Look at this war criminal asking new zealand ambassador not to vote against him..look at this war criminal building settlements on occupied palestinian land..shame

we'v already talked about it in page 1, the settlements are legit and i doubt whether the un can change it so easily, but you also ignored the very comment that you quoted, the fact that the muslim world has strong diplomatic power does not indicate anything else.

now if you execuse me, i'm not willing to embarrass myself debating trolls, the same way you ignore hours of writing and struggled with your childish bullshit i'm ignoring you.