War to end all wars
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WW1 by Aetius is perfect example of how map creators want to force players to play always same style and tactics, holding strictly to narrow diapason of choices, usually only one option:
- Trench warfare on the West. Understandable. But something have to change when US troops arrive, or tanks, or both. UK, France and Germany are practically doing nothing beside stacking one city(trench) for 15 turns. If farming is banned, then i think this playstyle where you sit and doing nothing for an hour should be punishable as well lol. Perhaps adding US troops earlier in game, or tanks with bonus against trenches. But it shouldnt be over for Germany if UK/FR pass trench lines as true battles can commence on open battlefield.
- Italian front, kinda same like french-german. Plus there are Alps between Austria and Italy, so even worse to fight. Probably transport boats for Austria and Italy on Adriatic sea but low range like 2 points, so it takes time to invade coast. That way they can both avoid Alps and fight on the sea until someone land on coast where ground battle can begin.
- Russian front, worst in scenario. Russian regions doesnt have artillery, infantry, machine guns. But they have weak cavalry and expensive special forces. Some regions have machine guns but no arty, other have arty but no MGs. Total mess. If creator decided to remove infantry from Russia, then atleast every Russian region should have MG and arty to enlarge Russian diapason of options. Otherwise whoever pick Russia it will be doomed to die while true gaming is about balance so both teams have chances to win. Thats fun. But here Russia is forced to build walls only and wait until Prussia get 160 stealth units 10/5 all over Russia. Not to mention Inflation and unrest unit which drain economy.
Players should have option to choose their moves and decide their tactics, and not be forced to play as commanded. Thats not fun. Tik-tok made trenches in his WW2 near Vladivostok so Japan and USSR cant fight, so he denied 2 players to decide if they going to fight and relieve the pressure from their ally front. But dont confuse Tik-Tok/Aetius style with Kentuckyball's style for example. In his WW2 he made trenches from Leningrad to Stalingrad, yet there is alot of space for player to make decisions, tactics and even manouvers.
- Trench warfare on the West. Understandable. But something have to change when US troops arrive, or tanks, or both. UK, France and Germany are practically doing nothing beside stacking one city(trench) for 15 turns. If farming is banned, then i think this playstyle where you sit and doing nothing for an hour should be punishable as well lol. Perhaps adding US troops earlier in game, or tanks with bonus against trenches. But it shouldnt be over for Germany if UK/FR pass trench lines as true battles can commence on open battlefield.
- Italian front, kinda same like french-german. Plus there are Alps between Austria and Italy, so even worse to fight. Probably transport boats for Austria and Italy on Adriatic sea but low range like 2 points, so it takes time to invade coast. That way they can both avoid Alps and fight on the sea until someone land on coast where ground battle can begin.
- Russian front, worst in scenario. Russian regions doesnt have artillery, infantry, machine guns. But they have weak cavalry and expensive special forces. Some regions have machine guns but no arty, other have arty but no MGs. Total mess. If creator decided to remove infantry from Russia, then atleast every Russian region should have MG and arty to enlarge Russian diapason of options. Otherwise whoever pick Russia it will be doomed to die while true gaming is about balance so both teams have chances to win. Thats fun. But here Russia is forced to build walls only and wait until Prussia get 160 stealth units 10/5 all over Russia. Not to mention Inflation and unrest unit which drain economy.
Players should have option to choose their moves and decide their tactics, and not be forced to play as commanded. Thats not fun. Tik-tok made trenches in his WW2 near Vladivostok so Japan and USSR cant fight, so he denied 2 players to decide if they going to fight and relieve the pressure from their ally front. But dont confuse Tik-Tok/Aetius style with Kentuckyball's style for example. In his WW2 he made trenches from Leningrad to Stalingrad, yet there is alot of space for player to make decisions, tactics and even manouvers.
Serbia was attacked by Bulgaria so Greece was bound by treaty to help, but as a Greek I can say our king was retarded back then so Greece stayed "neutral"
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Aetius fixed the map already, plus it is way better than before, this is old topic, Russia even buffed, Italy better (not stronger) etc. I forgot about this until you necroed it, can't hide Aetius reply shocked me, he's extremely talented mapmaker, but oh boy he is not friendly or approachable to players. 'If you don't like it then don't play it' mentality is so out of place, as i just tried to discuss the map to make it better, not worse. Well i guess it doesn't matter now, we're all inside our stronghold clans, playing our own games, secluded from community which at this point is non-existent, and hostile to anyone trying to play with us. Multiplayer gaming lost its meaning.
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