Situation in Croatia
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Tens of thousands young, intelligent and trained Croatians are going in another countries (Especially now when Croatia is in EU) to find better colleges, job, luck, life, ....
At the same time, there are tens of thousands immigrants from East or Africa that are coming in Croatia.
It all escalated after Hungary made a 5m high border wall with Serbia who was known as country through which all immigrants are going in to other countries from EU.
Now that is Croatia.
Problem is, young and smart people didnt find job here or didnt have luck in finding so they are going out. There is no chance those immigrants will find better job here when neither those trained Croatian students did.
Europe should do much more for stopping this overescalated and massive immigrations that are even breaking law rules.
Also, I think Croatian government and governments of other countries that are targets of immigrants should do something, because this is not good future picture.
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Dont worry, after 50 years you can create Operation Storm v.2 and ethnically cleanse them from Croatia.
If country have strong economy, immigration wont be a problem, but if a country have weak economy, immigration become a problem. Thats why you need law which regulate immigration in case you have weak economy. But with strong economy you can have immigrants as many you want. Of course you also need normal government to manage them when they enter the state. Russia have 11 million immigrants, mostly from ex-USSR and ex-Warsaw Pact. They are employed in factories, shipyards and construction sites. Russia provide them job and decent salary, but if they are lazy and dont want to work they will leave Russia, they wont lie on streets for eternity like EU fears of their immigrants. Just give them decent job and salary and thats it, but dont ignore them and leave them camp in your cities forever, you create ghettos that way. Thats why you need strong economy, so you can provide them jobs. US government for example didnt coordinate immigrants, they leave them on their own when they enter USA (in 19th century). So half of immigrants had luck/skills and started job or found one, but other half wasnt that lucky and they created crime organizations to make profit. Italian Mafia, Irish Mafia, Jewish Mafia etc.
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Oops   I dont get jokes when i have nervous and talking about this stuff 
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one little tiny hole in your script..if aliens have the technology to actually travel from another galaxy through black holes to visit earth im pretty damn sure they can and will destroy us in seconds.. Pray that we never get to see aliens cause most probably it will be the last thing we ll see.. p.s. collapse what the fuck dude. dont they teach english to Greek schools anymore?!!
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Go watch Independence Day 
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Yes they do but when you bored you skip some stuff.Also for some reason it looked that way.(arent you talking about soldiers message?) p.s did i ever insult you little boy/girl?
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This problem is everywhere in Europe, not just in Croatia. The only thing we can do is hope for a better government that will quit the European Union, stop being emotional and taking in too many immigrants, and start fixing our own problems. We need to start telling those heartbleeding socialists that if they want to help people, they should go work for a charity organization and improve the situation in the middle east instead of dedicating themselves to ruining our nation.
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You guys should have allied him then
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And Canada. Also, do you listen to RedIceRadio (from Sweden?) This topic comes up a lot recently. PM if you want to discuss further =D
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You already answered your question. None of these problems occured when Europeans moved to other European lands. Might makes right, defend your land or lose it. If we don't, we will lose ours.
We are all suffering, brother. This is nothing less than an invasion of Europe. All Europeans will be forced to dela with this. There is only one solution, both Left and Right are puppets. The only political ideal which will truly represent us is National Socialism. Vote Golden Dawn, then you will see the EU quiver in fear as Greece drops its ballsack and starts using functioning policies. Europa, we are all in this together.
So the globe is suffering massive over population and you want to punish the only continent that isn't overpopulated by importing overpopulated populations who cna then continue overpopulation with handouts in Europe. How about, fuck no? Europe doesn't and has NEVER needed this immigration. European DOMINATED the entire globe culturally, economically and militarily. To this day, it could colonize most of the world with relative ease. Why do we suddenly need immigration from the third world? How about we incentivize higher birth rates with good social policy? Or how about not worry as automation will solve labour issues. Anything... ANYTHING but importing the dregs of the third world.
There isn't a lot of room. Why should Europeans suffer population density so foreigners can live off their labour? Immigrants on the whole are unemployed. They are not productive and don't come close to their tax costs. Unemployment is already rising in Europe and they aren't going to help create any. They will also just lower average wages. There is zero benefit.
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Russia has the worst economy, the highest crime rates, the worst healthcare system, among the lowest wages and the highest unemployment. Racial tensions in Russia are higher than France. You need to shut the fuck and stop spouting utter lies which contradict actual reality. Nothing you say is backed by any rela world statistics and doesn't correlate with your wishy washy notion of a unified socially cohesive Russia which TO THIS DAY has the HIGHEST abortion rates in Europe. You know what separates Kalingrad and Poland? A border, yet on one side is growth, lower crime, higher wage and NO abortion, on the other is a shit hole with the highest abortion rates in Europe. Kalingrad citizens that walk into Poland think they entered paradise. You're a fucking joke.
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The solution starts with YOU. There are no Caesar's waiting for us. No great heroes or parties waiting to come. YOU need to start acting and building. YOU need to build your own in-groups and networks made up of fanatics. That is the solution. Do not wait for a Strong Man. BECOME STRONG MEN!
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No it doesnt, Albania have worse 
No it doesnt, Congo and America have higher
Russia have better healthcare system then most of Europe and better than United States. Because it is universal, backed by good schools which produce good doctors and nurses since 1930. Not to mention knowledge collected through centuries and skill obtained during wars like surgery during WWII. Check how many Americans and Europeans go to Russia to get efficient, affordable complicated surgeries. The one that save lives but cant get them in America because expensive, reserved only for elite.
True about wages, unemployment is 5%, thats 5% less than America and Europe Wages will rise, but not like West because West doesnt have natural wealth like Russia does, thus prices go up and therefore wages as well. Russia cannot have high wages because developed agriculture produce cheap food which reduce the price of all other raw materials and raw goods on market and create a chain of cheap(er) products. Similar happened in Italy, thats why they focused on fashion where they can sell cheap-made product for enormous cash. Italian economy is among healthiest in the World i must add. Do note that they have strong communist party
Actually there is no racial tension in Russia, yellow people live in Buryatia, far away from white Russians, there are only small incidents in Moscow where tatars work. Nazis in Russia are actually teenagers without proper family, so they present their hate, violence and ignorance by attacking everyone, not only non-russians.
And you need to be banned for posting hate speech and pro-nazi stance.
Poles leave Poland to clean toilets in Germany and UK, what high wages and low crime lol... Poland is third world country. Some of them work in Germany for 1€ an hour. Whats wrong with abortions? Women have right to have sex and abort if they get pregnant but not want to keep baby. They have right on their own bodies. You better go back to Stone Age Tik-Tok, you belong there.
Haha, that comes from man who support failed system which lost in the war it started. Whole atwar is mocking you since 2011, you are the clown, a jester on atwar. We laugh our a**es off when you show up with your grandad hitler stories  Shalom aleichem
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Wow wow wow wait a second... where did the Bible loving Tito go?
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No, Unleashed is atwars resident clown
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I claim that is written in Torah, does that make me a jew? I studied theology in Novgorod (christianity), theology in Tehran [(shia) islam] and jewish school in Belgrade. I've read Torah, Talmud, Tanakh, Bible and Qoran. I never say my position, neither my stance, on any topic on internet games, therefore i didnt claim text to be true, but that is is fact it is written in a book, impossible to disaprove, as it is impossible to prove Evolution.
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The Mighty Russia has an economy slightly better than Albania. Wow. Round of a fucking applause for that achievement.
No, Russia has higher crime rates than the US. Don't bring the Congo in this. I'm comparing European and commonwealth stats. If you have to compare your stats to Africa just to come out on top, something is drastically wrong. Even worse, if you have to compare it to the one place in the world with the worst violent crime, then something is REALLY wrong. Russia has a murder rate of 9.2 per 100,000 population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Russia US has a murder rate of 4.7 per 100,000 population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate Comparing overall or violent crime isn't easy. The US is more precise with how it collects data than Russia. Russia has has a much lower reporting of crime.Homicide is a good indicator and if Russia manages to murder higher without a large black population like the US which commits almost all the homicide, then something is very, very wrong in Russia. So much for multiculturalism and multi racialism.
Russia ranks 130th on world healthcare. It's behind most South America countries. Even Pakistan has better healthcare. The US is ranked 37. Most European countries are in the top 10. http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems_in_2000 Want something more recent? A 2014 study showed Russia ranks 50th on its efficiency. Far behind Europe, commonwealth and the USA. http://www.bloomberg.com/visual-data/best-and-worst//most-efficient-health-care-2014-countries Russia isn't even a developed country. It's healthcare remains among the worst in the world outside the developed world. You will not find a single statistic to prove this wrong. Going off on tangents declaring something good is not proof of it actually being good. Back it up.
Russia is at 5.5% and projects to hit 5.9. The US is at 5.3%. Comparing Russia to the collective stats of Europe as a whole is ridiculous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_unemployment_rate
Excuses, excuses. Russia has a lower average wage compared to Turkey. It's a shit hole. It's just above Jamaica at no.37. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_wage
And stronger nationalist parties.
So you claim Russia is multi cultural and multi racial paradise and within a single post claim everyone lives separately. No, lets look at the mass Muslim and south Asians living in Western Russia. Lets look at the tension there. You claim its a paradise yet tensions there are higher than France. There are more ultra nationalist groups in Russia than all of Western Europe. You can keep pretending everything is good but the facts and stats speak for themselves. Russia does not function socially or economically. Multi cult does not work.
Oy vey, not getting your way? What you really mean is you want to spout your garbled bullshit without someone like me laying down the facts which oppose everything you say. I promote free speech, I don't fear opposition. You do, your world view needs a hugbox to maintain itself. Mine thrives when allowed to speak freely.
No argument. He just bitches about Poland and yet if Poland is so bad, why do Russian citizens in Kalingrad see it as a paradise. How shit must Russia be if your own people think Poland is heaven in comparison?
Abortions are a sign that women are unwilling to have children because society is so defunct. Western white Russians have the lowest birth rates in Europe.
Oh look, he brings up WWII in an irrelevant conversation. Someones losing.
You have never backed up anything you say with real world stats. I always can and do. All that matters is the truth. Those that laugh at truth and live in illusion will be the first to fall when reality knocks down the door. Your friends are autistic communist man children who wouldn't survive a day outside of their video games and college dorms. Other people are naysayers but being naive wont be an excuse for when things turn bad. The fact that you keep those people naive says more about you than I ever could. When they suffer, it will your fault for not preparing them.
Gott Mit Uns Deus Vult Tito wont reply to this. He will deny all stats and call them western propaganda and then claim that there is no point arguing with ebil nahtzees. He can't back up a single thing he says and never will. He'll even bring up WWII in an effort to slide away from his inabiltiy to BACK UP HIS SHIT. If Multiculturalism and multi racialism works. Prove it. Back up statements with stats to show it works in Russia. Don't give broad statements, prove it.
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Russian economy is #10 largest, thats enough for us. As i said, we are not competing with the world like West does. Some things are not for competition. In the year 2000, Russian economy was #50 or so, 15 years later it get spot #10. It gone up 40 spots, thats a great achievement for such a short period of time.
Crime in Russia is leftover from 'dashing 90s' era. When USSR collapsed, system collapsed as well which created crime. To stop crime, you can do it democratic way, but it takes time, it is slow, or do it totalitarian way, its faster. Russia is doing it democratic way, with trials, proofs, police respecting laws and human rights. In the last 15 years crime in Russia is down for 50%-70%, but it need more time to reach 100% crime-free state. Better let go 1000 criminals than send 1 innocent to prison.
I cant argue against Western propaganda machine, created to show Russia like mordor. I am aware of statistics presented by the West, i cant fight against it and i dont want to fight against it. I am not competing. Russian healthcare was worse in the 90's, but it is way better today and even better than Europe or America. That doesnt mean European is bad, it means American is bad. They kick patients on the street and ask $50,000 dollars bills for curing fever. Russia didnt create healthcare system to brag to the world, but to maintain health in the country. You can go on trashtalk all you want, you wont make a difference.
America is hiding real statistics, its more like 20% unemployment since 2008. European Union is supranational state, thus can be used in collective statistics.
Thats the fact, not excuse, it is you who need excuses to divert the blame for failing country from you, to jews. You have failed economy, financials collapsed, drugs and crime in your country but you blame jews who live 5000km far away. Russian monlthy salary in 2000 was $50, 15 years later it is $500. Its still rising, Western wages didnt rise for 10 years. Why is that i wonder?
Crime in Russia happens because of poverty made by Communism which lasted 80 years in the century meant to develop and grow. Crime is not because multi racial hatred, thats Europe and America. Crime in Russia will reduce, as economy grows, but it cant happen overnight as you children would like. You have to be realistic.
Is that why you support a country which banned opposition, killed it in the Night of Long Knives and promoted totalitarian control and world war? Muh tribe
No argument. He just bitches about Poles see Kalinigrad as a paradise.
Dude find a girlfriend, you are going crazy.
You false arguments like kalinigrad and poland, how sour are you. Someone losing.
You are truth-denier, therefore i have nothing to prove to you. You are autistic conspiracy fan.
All my friends on atwar are gone, they have real life and no time to play games. I dont hang out with children and trolls so i cant have crew like you do I dont have time to play too sadly, didnt play proper game for months. But i save few minutes to spend on reading forum and be informed whats going on atwar.
I dont throw shit at shit. I dont compete and have no reasons to try to beat a loser. You are fighting against yourself. Mein Kampf. Your struggle is in your head, because you are crazy.
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National socialism is more a punishment than a solution. I thought we been over this already. N.S. both in PRACTICE and in THEORY is ROTTEN. I dont have to repeat myself i think, on the why's. Historical evidence suggest that fascism always failed whenever it was practiced, always had devastating detrimental effects on the lives of the population who endured it, and ultimately always added more problems than it solved. The great society you dream of is just that, a dream. You are way more deluded and utopian than the average anarchist and frankly, thinking you can do the same thing over and over and expect different results, is the definition of...insanity. Thankfully and hopefully, the Greeks dont suffer from this specific affliction of the brain (they suffer from others) as they have witnessed fascism first hand in two different occasions in their recent history and the scars are forever branded in the deepest corners of the soul of the country and its people. They will never go for it again, i can damn well promise you this. As for Golden dawn, people are so over it lol, the hiatus ended, keep up.The show is over, we had fun and now everyone can see them for the joke they really are. Just another criminal gang of brainless, uneducated, violent, troubled, bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic shit for brains rednecks with a semi smart weasel-leader, spouting patrotic bullshit and hatemongering rhetoric on an attempt to take advantage of a whole nations pain and suffering, to gain power. Sounds familar? Been there, done that and failed miserably - Hitler says hi.
Scientific consensus disagrees with you. There is absolutely zero evidence that an abortion is harmfull in anyway for the female who undergoes the procedure or her family or society in general for that matter. Or that it is connected to any kind of mental, psychological or social problems. If anything abortion is a medical advancement and is a sign the female in question is responsible, sensible, mature and educated enough to decide when and if a child birth at the time, is in hers or the babies best interest. There is not a single evidence against my statement, except religious and conservative right wing ideology driven nonsense. As for the notion that a relation between low birth rates and a nations supposed prosperity exists, i couldnt help but laugh at this . If anything its the opposite and i find your stance, not only archaic, not only naive and totally excluding data and critical facts of our worlds reality, but i find it dangerous and destructive. Because if you look at the stats, countries scoring higher in birth rates are the worst shitholes in the world, countries in Africa and the Middle east. Countries like that score low in other statistics as well, such as equality, freedom of speech, civil liberties and education and score high in religion and opression. As for the countries with low birth rates...the best our planet has, the leading countries in everything, West Europe, Nordic countries, Canada and etc. As you can see theres a pattern to be seen in birth rates. Countries which breed like bunnies are traditionalist, religious, opressive and kind of ..thirdworld. What does this say about your views and your ideology? Moreso, are you aware of the problem of overpopulation? Are you aware that if you subtract the dying humans from the new born humans, we still add 80 million to our total population pool, every year. Are you aware that we have reached capacity and our planet and system CANNOT sustain anymore? Are you aware that these millions will compete with us and our kids for resources in the near future? Are you aware that THIS is the cause of almost every misfortune and problem in the world right now. Lack of food, water, depletion of oil and gas and other resources like wood, pollution in land, air and water,extincion of species, destruction of habitats, overcrowded cities, wars and conflicts, disease spreading, lower standard of living, unemployment, economic instability, tons of social problems and MASS IMMIGRATION are all results of this problem, which no one seems to want to properly adress. You do not want to fight the cause, but you gladly attack one of the consequenses. The people with the high birth rates you so much value..they are all the uneducated, unskilled, smelly, dirty looking people, that migrate illegally to your country. They breed like theres no tommorow and then they come to live in Uk. And you hate them. And yet you are so similar to them, in a way.You share ideology and have common values with those people, not sure if you are aware of that fact. Most of those people are conservative traditionalists, they oppose equality, free speech and thought and a view of a liberal society, just like you do. They hate gays just like you do. They practice intolerancy in all aspects of society, just like you do. They are you. And still, instead of preaching against the mindless, totally irresponsible, borderline criminal baby breeding, instead of empowering women to have the right and support to plan their families, wether it is by delaying motherhood or skipping it completely or abort, to manage their finances, to be able to have education and careers, which will help in solving this problem, you are doing the opposite. Your ideology and religion fully blinds you on the reality of the world and you appear more graphical and utopian, than the anarchists you are so quick to mock and ridicule. You dismiss the scientific consensus, you dismiss all the data and the statistics, you replace critical thinking and logic, with emotional appeals to tradition and resort to scaremongering tactics to get your point home. Out of all the arguments-non sense that ever came out of your mouth, only one was factually and logically proven to be valid and true. The suggestion that careless, un regulated multiculturalism (via immigration) has been proven a failure and had horrible and devastating effects on the people living in Europe and that steps should be taken immediately to halt the process and then remedy the situation. This, i can agree on. The left is to blame for this, it was a social experiment gone wrong and i am willing to accept that.
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First, it was a joke and second it would be critisism and not insulting. Third, i am not Tik tok, i dont care if you are Greek yourself, this fact will only make me judge you more harshly, because i expect more from you. If you wish to claim intellectual superiority over other people, a good first step would be to learn to speak and type in english. Take care buddy.
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Yes you did lol. You said you were a christian and you were defending Jesus and the bible..then one day you said you might be Jewish.. you also claimed stories from the bible book for children were actually true, like Adam and eve and Noah and the ark. As for evolution theres a TON of evidence suggesting evolution happened. The FACTS is that creationism is just a HYPOTHESIS, whereas evolution is a SCIENTIFIC THEORY, just like plate tectonics, cells, atoms, earths orbit and all other foundational scientific theories. As for your debate with Tik, step up your game please
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All nations compete. This isn't about competition, this is about calling you out on your bullshit. You claim Russia is so fantastic thanks to multicult and yet you can't finbd a statistic to prove otherwise.
Germans did it in 6 and were easily in the top 5. Russia has enormous land and resources. It should be No.1.
Bullshit. Soviet crime rates were at similar levels to the US in the 70s and 80s and that was when US crime was peaking. Crime in Russia is insane. If Russia were a multilcultural paradise, why is it crime so high? Crime down by half? Bullshit. Post proof.
Called it. He has no stats of his own to prove it wrong so he's going to claim its western propaganda despit the stat being independent and placing Asian healthcare at a high rate.
Yet you have no proof of this. I posted stats which put Singapore and Hong Kong as the top two spots. It's pretty unbias and doesn't make the US look good either. Russia has terrible healthcare compared to the rest of the developed world. This is a fact. Proven, substantiated and you have nothing in opposition against it. PROVE ME WRONG.
Oh horse shit. THe US has medicaid and medicare, no hospital cna deny care. Most European states also have similar policies. They are either single payer systems or semi nationalized.
It isn't about bragging rights. It's about how capable your nation is in functioning. Russia isn't. If multiculturalism is so good, why is Russia such a shit hole?
So is Russia but at least US collects data on people who are out of work but not on welfare. Russia doesn't. I cna only imagine what it's hiding.
Cop-out. Each European state is very different with completely different governments. The EU is shit but its just oversight. Each nation has very different stats and forms of government.
I'm not going to have this slid into 'JEWS'. You're running away from the facts.
Russia currency and markets collapsed not long ago. We'll see the effects soon.
Nope. Poverty is not the cause of crime. Post War America & Europe suffered much greater poverty and had 9 times lower crime than today. The difference is immigration and a mass influx of non European immigrants.
No it wont. Crime will continue to increase due to poor social policy and open border immigration. Social cohesion is the absolute prime reason for low crime rates and growth. A cohesive society is superior in every way, Russia is not cohesive at all. It's broken.
When did I advocate culling free speech? Try harder.
LOL. Then why aren't Polish people mass moving to Kalingrad? Why is the opposite more common?
No response to statistical facts. Just a personal insult to slide from the issue. You're a christian yet you support abortion. What a slimey two faced snake you are flip flopping from one position to another. I care about the white birth rate of Russians because without them, Russia ceases to exist. Russia isn't going to move into automation any time soon so its labor is necessary for its future. High abortion rates a re sign of zero trust in the states future and a severe lack of cohesion. Cohesion is vital for the future of a nation, without it, it ceases to be.
Not false at all. Why is Poland superior to shitty Kalingrad? Kalingrad was the German HEARTLAND of industry It was the Prussian capital and you communists turned it into a shit hole.
In other words. You can't BACK YOUR SHIT UP. Yet I can. You are the one denying truth m8. I'm the one promoting it.
Top kek. What a bullshit reply. "He he, we all laugh at you, hue hue hue xaxaxa" "I d-dont t-talk t-to an-nyone on h-here" Which is it?
The last statement of a man who can't prove his position. I posted sources, stats and reasoning, he continued to post monologues while denying factual stats.
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